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Subject:    Re: [Pronet] How Should MT6 Themes Handle Customizations That Need to Persist Across Reapplication o
From:       Dave Aiello <dave.aiello () after6services ! com>
Date:       2017-12-08 5:05:55
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François:

The reason I didn't see how to add Custom Fields at the Blog and Website
level is because I can only see these System Objects as choices when I am
creating Custom Fields at the System Overview level.

I expected to be able to create Blog and Website Custom Fields when I was
inside of the Blog or Website where I wished the Custom Fields to appear.

Thanks for your help,

Dave Aiello
After6 Services LLC
http://www.after6services.com/
http://facebook.com/after6services
@daveaiello <https://twitter.com/daveaiello> and @after6services
<https://twitter.com/after6services> on Twitter
+1-267-352-4420 phone
+1-609-815-0405 mobile

On December 7, 2017 at 1:07:36 AM, François Nonnenmacher (lists@padawan.info)
wrote:



Le 7 déc. 2017 à 17:00, Dave Aiello <dave.aiello@after6services.com> a
écrit :

Hi François:

OK, glad we agree that this is a reasonable approach.

Here's another question.

Is MT6 supposed to allow Custom Fields at the Website and Blog level?


Yes.

The reason I ask is because the Custom Field Overview documentation,
https://movabletype.org/documentation/professional/custom-fields/overview.html,
says that we can extend Blogs and Websites with Custom Fields. But when I
try to create a custom field at the website level, the System Object menu
doesn't have a "Website" choice.


Strange, mine does (sorry, it's in French, but you should get what  « Site
web  » means ;-):




What am I missing?


I don't know, sorry!


Best regards,

Dave Aiello
After6 Services LLC
http://www.after6services.com/
http://facebook.com/after6services
@daveaiello <https://twitter.com/daveaiello> and @after6services
<https://twitter.com/after6services> on Twitter
+1-267-352-4420 phone
+1-609-815-0405 mobile

On December 7, 2017 at 12:48:22 AM, François Nonnenmacher (
lists@padawan.info) wrote:

Hi Dave,

to me the answer is yes :).

Thanks.
-- 
François Nonnenmacher
Ubiquitic — http://ubiquitic.com
Tel. (+687) 793009 (GMT+11 / NC)

Le 7 déc. 2017 à 16:45, Dave Aiello <dave.aiello@after6services.com> a
écrit :

Hi Fellow MT Developers:

I built an MT6 theme for one of my clients that was originally intended to
be specific to one business.  Due to the success of the theme, it's now
being picked up by other businesses owned by the same client.

Here's an example of a problem that is occurring because the theme is being
applied to multiple websites:

The theme contains a Site Footer template module.  That template module is
defined in the theme, and it currently contains the name, address, phone
number, etc. for the business that originally commissioned the theme.

Now we need to have the business address information published in the Site
Footer be different based on the site which is being published with the
theme.  I think this means that the business address information has to
persist across multiple reapplications of the theme to the website. This is
because the theme is being updated regularly, and we do not want to have to
re-enter the business address information into the Site Footer each time
the theme is reapplied.

Is the best way to do this to create Custom Fields and have the Site Footer
template module grab its contents from those Custom Fields, instead of
having that information coded directly into the Site Footer in the theme?

Thanks,

Dave Aiello
After6 Services LLC
http://www.after6services.com/
http://facebook.com/after6services
@daveaiello <https://twitter.com/daveaiello> and @after6services
<https://twitter.com/after6services> on Twitter

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id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">I \
expected to be able to create Blog and Website Custom Fields when I was inside of the \
Blog or Website where I wished the Custom Fields to appear.</div><div \
id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto"><br></div><div \
id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0);margin:0px;line-height:auto">Thanks \
for your help,</div> <br> <div id="bloop_sign_1512701629370501120" \
class="bloop_sign"><div>Dave Aiello</div><div>After6 Services LLC</div><div><a \
href="http://www.after6services.com/">http://www.after6services.com/</a></div><div><a \
href="http://facebook.com/after6services">http://facebook.com/after6services</a></div><div><a \
href="https://twitter.com/daveaiello">@daveaiello</a>  and  <a \
href="https://twitter.com/after6services">@after6services</a>  on \
Twitter</div><div>+1-267-352-4420 phone</div><div>+1-609-815-0405 mobile</div></div> \
<br><p class="airmail_on">On December 7, 2017 at 1:07:36 AM, François Nonnenmacher \
(<a href="mailto:lists@padawan.info">lists@padawan.info</a>) wrote:</p> <blockquote \
type="cite" class="clean_bq"><span><div \
style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><div></div><div>



<title></title>


<br class="">
<div><br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">Le 7 déc. 2017 à 17:00, Dave Aiello &lt;<a \
href="mailto:dave.aiello@after6services.com" \
class="">dave.aiello@after6services.com</a>&gt; a écrit :</div> <br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <div class="">
<div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class="">Hi François:</div> <div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class=""><br class=""></div> <div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class="">OK, glad we agree that this is a reasonable approach.</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class=""><br class=""></div> <div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class="">Here's another question.</div> <div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class=""><br class=""></div> <div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class="">Is MT6 supposed to allow Custom Fields at the Website and Blog level?</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br class=""></div>
<div>Yes.</div>
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class="">The reason I ask is because the Custom Field Overview documentation,  <a \
href="https://movabletype.org/documentation/professional/custom-fields/overview.html" \
class="">https://movabletype.org/documentation/professional/custom-fields/overview.html</a>,
 says that we can extend Blogs and Websites with Custom Fields. But
when I try to create a custom field at the website level, the
System Object menu doesn't have a "Website" choice.</div>
</blockquote>
<div><br class=""></div>
<div>Strange, mine does (sorry, it's in French, but you should get
what  « Site web   » means ;-):</div>
<div><br class=""></div>
<div><img id="DB6E1935-E5B4-41CD-AF54-67800411191E" \
src="cid:BA211BAC-5483-49E7-AEA1-5074BDCED9CA" class=""></div> <div><br \
class=""></div> <br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class=""><br class=""></div> <div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class="">What am I missing?</div> </blockquote>
<div><br class=""></div>
<div>I don't know, sorry!</div>
<br class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class=""><br class=""></div> <div id="bloop_customfont" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px" \
class="">Best regards,</div> <br \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" \
class=""> <div id="bloop_sign_1512626108073147136" class="bloop_sign" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
 <div class="">Dave Aiello</div>
<div class="">After6 Services LLC</div>
<div class=""><a href="http://www.after6services.com/" \
class="">http://www.after6services.com/</a></div> <div class=""><a \
href="http://facebook.com/after6services" \
class="">http://facebook.com/after6services</a></div> <div class=""><a \
href="https://twitter.com/daveaiello" class="">@daveaiello</a>  and  <a \
href="https://twitter.com/after6services" class="">@after6services</a>  on \
Twitter</div> <div class="">+1-267-352-4420 phone</div>
<div class="">+1-609-815-0405 mobile</div>
</div>
<br style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-c \
aps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" \
class=""> <p class="airmail_on" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
 On December 7, 2017 at 12:48:22 AM, François Nonnenmacher (<a \
href="mailto:lists@padawan.info" class="">lists@padawan.info</a>) wrote:</p>
<blockquote type="cite" class="clean_bq" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
 <div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space">
<div class=""></div>
<div class=""><span class="">Hi Dave,</span>
<div class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div>
<div class=""><span class="">to me the answer is yes
> ).</span></div>
<div class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div>
<div class="">
<div class=""><span class="">Thanks.</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="">--  </span></div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<div class=""><span class="">François Nonnenmacher</span></div>
<div class=""><span class="">Ubiquitic —<span class="Apple-converted-space">  \
</span><a href="http://ubiquitic.com/" class="">http://ubiquitic.com</a></span></div> \
<div class="">Tel. (+687) 793009 (GMT+11 / NC)</div> <div class=""><br \
class=""></div> </div>
</div>
</div>
<div class="">
<div class="">
<blockquote type="cite" class="">
<div class="">Le 7 déc. 2017 à 16:45, Dave Aiello &lt;<a \
href="mailto:dave.aiello@after6services.com" \
class="">dave.aiello@after6services.com</a>&gt; a écrit :</div> <br \
class="Apple-interchange-newline"> <div class="">
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 Hi Fellow MT Developers:</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 <br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 I built an MT6 theme for one of my clients that was originally
intended to be specific to one business.   Due to the success
of the theme, it's now being picked up by other businesses owned by
the same client.</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 <br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 Here's an example of a problem that is occurring because the theme
is being applied to multiple websites:</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 <br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 The theme contains a Site Footer template module.   That
template module is defined in the theme, and it currently contains
the name, address, phone number, etc. for the business that
originally commissioned the theme.</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 <br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 Now we need to have the business address information published in
the Site Footer be different based on the site which is being
published with the theme.   I think this means that the
business address information has to persist across multiple
reapplications of the theme to the website. This is because the
theme is being updated regularly, and we do not want to have to
re-enter the business address information into the Site Footer each
time the theme is reapplied.</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 <br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 Is the best way to do this to create Custom Fields and have the
Site Footer template module grab its contents from those Custom
Fields, instead of having that information coded directly into the
Site Footer in the theme?</div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 <br class=""></div>
<div id="bloop_customfont" class="" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;margin:0px">
 Thanks,</div>
<div class="bloop_container" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
 <div class="bloop_frame"></div>
</div>
<br class="" style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font- \
variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">


<div class="bloop_sign" id="bloop_sign_1512623531492152832" \
style="font-family:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps: \
normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">
 <div class="">Dave Aiello</div>
<div class="">After6 Services LLC</div>
<div class=""><a href="http://www.after6services.com/" \
class="">http://www.after6services.com/</a></div> <div class=""><a \
href="http://facebook.com/after6services" \
class="">http://facebook.com/after6services</a></div> <div class=""><a \
href="https://twitter.com/daveaiello" class="">@daveaiello</a>  and  <a \
href="https://twitter.com/after6services" class="">@after6services</a>  on \
Twitter</div> </div>
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