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Subject: Re: Did you know this?
From: Don Michels <dmichels () FEEDROOM ! COM>
Date: 2005-09-23 18:43:02
Message-ID: 20887815ABF63E47A9B7DB4ACA987CB401688702 () stampy ! feedroom ! com
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Hi Ray, thanks for the feedback. I will forward on to my qa folks.
As for the different browsers...the links I gave are somewhat misleading, I should \
have clarified. I gave both so that people could explicitly compare; but if you do \
the comparison, then you need to do it in Internet explorer. Normal use of the \
application is to go to http://nytimesshorts.feedroom.com (without the query string), \
and our app will pick which version you get based on which \
OS/browser/player/bandwidth combo you are using. So, for instance, I wouldn't expect \
WM to work in firefox...because in that browser we would deliver the flash \
experience. IE on a windows OS is the only combo in which both experiences should \
work.
Thanks again for the feedback.
dm
Don Michels
The FeedRoom, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: WMTalk [mailto:WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM]On Behalf Of Ray
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 10:18 AM
To: WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
Subject: Re: Did you know this?
WMT version would not load in Firefox. Tried I.E. and it loaded but
never started (just gave me a pause control). While in I.E., I clicked
on different video and info section changed but video still did not play.
At the 1000 connection, Flash looked very pixelated and seemed to have
significant tearing. Played three clips and some were better but I have
seen MPEG4 at lower rates look much better. I look forward to seeing
the WMT comparison.
Ray
Ray Harris
440.673.7777 x202
ray@webcastgroup.com
Webcast group, Inc.
http://www.webcastgroup.com
Don Michels wrote:
> As promised, here is a link to the New York Times' NY Film festival application, \
> which is our first deployment using the scale video feature. Works in both windows \
> media and flash.
> to see in win:
> http://nytimesshorts.feedroom.com?player=WMP
>
> in flash:
> http://nytimesshorts.feedroom.com?player=FLV
>
> dm
>
> Don Michels
> The FeedRoom, Inc.
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WMTalk [mailto:WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM]On Behalf Of
> Christopher Levy
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 9:41 PM
> To: WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
> Subject: Re: Did you know this?
>
>
> Don,
>
> Cool. Can't to see the footage :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WMTalk [mailto:WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of Don
> Michels
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:42 PM
> To: WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
> Subject: Re: Did you know this?
>
> we have been slowly adding flash video to our bag of tricks for the last
> 8 months, as we think the platform is fast becoming a viable video
> platform and it covers a lot of outlier os/browser combos that are not
> well reached by WM or Real. We have had some level of flash video
> support for about 6 months now. Building the front-end support is the
> easy part. Building the workflow tools and automation to scale it out
> to publish hundred or thousands of videos daily is the more challenging
> part.
>
> Our first application using this video scaling is for the new york film
> festival. I will send around some links once it officially launches.
> Encoding is at 300kbps and 1Mbps, so should be some good looking video,
> too.
>
> dm
>
> Don Michels
> The FeedRoom, Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WMTalk [mailto:WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM]On Behalf Of
> Christopher Levy
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:27 PM
> To: WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
> Subject: Re: Did you know this?
>
>
> Don,
>
> COOL. Curious ...why is FR moving to Flash?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WMTalk [mailto:WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM] On Behalf Of Don
> Michels
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:14 PM
> To: WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
> Subject: Re: Did you know this?
>
> We're releasing our flash video scaling solution in about 2 weeks. not
> quite full screen, but it will scale as big as you can open your browser
> window.
>
> I'm not saying flash just took over the world; I'm just saying the video
> quality was the #1 holdback, and vp6 brings them close enough to parity
> to WM that it is no longer a consideration.
>
> dm
>
> Don Michels
> The FeedRoom, Inc.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: WMTalk [mailto:WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM]On Behalf Of
> Christopher Levy
> Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 3:04 PM
> To: WMTalk@DISCUSS.MICROSOFT.COM
> Subject: Re: Did you know this?
>
>
> I think one of the major issues is the inability for users to
> full-screen the video. I watched the Starsky and Hutch trailer at 450
> and it should full screen...but it doesn't.
>
> Flash is a great marketing video tool but it's not a broadcast tool and
> it's lack of DRM really limits the potential of the platform.
>
> Nevermind the insane RealNetworks-like pricing model for the server.
>
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