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Subject: Re: [mrtg] FW: TimeZones
From: Steve Shipway <s.shipway () auckland ! ac ! nz>
Date: 2009-10-07 20:58:42
Message-ID: 6B587E8C999646469B54486AF21958460CA6639FE7 () UXCHANGE7-1 ! UoA ! auckland ! ac ! nz
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If you have no RRDTool , then you are running in Native mode (the graphs ar=
e re-created ever time MRTG polls) and therefore have no frontend. You onl=
y need a frontend if you are running in RRD Mode, as then the graphs are on=
ly re-created on demand.
MRTG will inherit the timezone configuration from the Operating System, unl=
ess you override it. If you override it, you need to give the new timezone=
name in a recognised format.
The timezone name can include specification of summer time; if so, then thi=
s will automatically be handled by the system time routines (IE you get all=
this for free!)
To find out how to specify the timezone correctly, in Fedora/RHEL use the c=
ommand 'tzselect'. This runs you through a bunch of menus and finally outp=
uts the value you should use to specify the timezone you selected. In your=
case, for Netherlands, on a RedHat Fedora system, it should be:
Timezone[targetname]: Europe/Amsterdam
and this will be converted by the OS routines to the correct timezone rules=
. The timezone name is case sensitive and punctuation/space sensitive and =
should be given EXACTLY as specified else it wont work (in your example, yo=
u replaced the / with a comma and so it failed and defaulted to GMT)
Other operating systems will need to specify things differently; for exampl=
e, under AIX Auckland's timezone is specified as "NZST-12NZDT,M9.5.0,M4.1.0=
"
Steve
________________________________
From: mrtg-bounces@lists.oetiker.ch [mailto:mrtg-bounces@lists.oetiker.ch] =
On Behalf Of Nick Price
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 9:18 p.m.
To: mrtg@lists.oetiker.ch
Subject: Re: [mrtg] FW: TimeZones
1. I installed MRTG as per the documentation from MRTG it didn't ask for=
RRDTool
2. I selected my location during the install of fedora I haven't done any=
thing else since then
3. Timezone[myIPaddress_1]:Amsterdam, Europe ... and the other Timezon=
e[myIPaddress_1]London, Europe have also tried GMT+1/ GMT+2 doesn't matt=
er it only gives GMT on both (for Amsterdam 2 hrs out)
4. How do I tell if I am using a front end I view the graphs from a we=
b browser on other PC's usually windows
5. If I don't use "timezone" the graphs are set to the local time of the =
server if I do use "timezone" the graphs are set to GMT regardless of what=
I try to tell it
Also is there a way once this works of MRTG automatically changing from sum=
mer to winter time. Date does differ from country to country
Nick
Can we have some more information?
1. Are you running MRTG natively or with RRDTool, and if with RRDTool, wh=
ich frontend?
2. How have you defined the timezone in the server OS?
3. How have you defined the timezone in the MRTG cfg files?
4. If using a MRTG/RRD frontend, how have you defined the timezone in the=
re?
5. How is it going wrong - is it just using the server timezone, or are i=
ndividual graphs coming in the wrong timezone, or what?
I know this /can/ work with devices in different timezones and their graphs=
displaying relative to the device's timezone rather than the MRTG server's=
timezone. Making it display relative to the browser's timezone is a bit h=
arder.
Steve
________________________________
From: mrtg-bounces@lists.oetiker.ch [mailto:mrtg-bounces@lists.oetiker.ch] =
On Behalf Of Nick Price
Sent: Wednesday, 7 October 2009 11:26 a.m.
To: mrtg@lists.oetiker.ch
Subject: [mrtg] FW: TimeZones
Hi All
I can't seem to get the timezone command to display the correct time
I'm running fedora 11 and mrtg 2.16.2
I am on CET (central European time) GMT +2
I monitor systems across 4 different time zones
If I don't use the timezone command it display my local time if I use the t=
imezone command its 2 hrs behind my local time
I have tried using Amsterdam, Europe or GMT+2 it doesn't matter it is still=
the wrong time
Any ideas on how t get this to display the correct time
Thanks
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you have no RRDTool , then you are
running in Native mode (the graphs are re-created ever time MRTG polls) and
therefore have no frontend. You only need a frontend if you are running
in RRD Mode, as then the graphs are only re-created on \
demand.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>MRTG will inherit the timezone
configuration from the Operating System, unless you override it. If you
override it, you need to give the new timezone name in a recognised \
format.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The timezone name can include
specification of summer time; if so, then this will automatically be handled by
the system time routines (IE you get all this for free!)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>To find out how to specify the timezone
correctly, in Fedora/RHEL use the command ‘tzselect’. This
runs you through a bunch of menus and finally outputs the value you should use
to specify the timezone you selected. In your case, for <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Netherlands</st1:place></st1:country-region>, on
a RedHat Fedora system, it should be:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Timezone[targetname]: \
Europe/Amsterdam<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>and this will be converted by the OS
routines to the correct timezone rules. The timezone name is case
sensitive and punctuation/space sensitive and should be given EXACTLY as
specified else it wont work (in your example, you replaced the / with a comma
and so it failed and defaulted to GMT)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Other operating systems will need to
specify things differently; for example, under AIX Auckland’s timezone is
specified as “NZST-12NZDT,M9.5.0,M4.1.0”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
mrtg-bounces@lists.oetiker.ch [mailto:mrtg-bounces@lists.oetiker.ch] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick Price<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 7 October 2009
9:18 p.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName \
w:st="on">mrtg@lists.oetiker.ch</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span \
style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [mrtg] FW: \
TimeZones</span></font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US \
style='font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
</div>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if \
!supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US \
style='font-size:11.0pt; color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span lang=EN-US \
style='color:#1F497D'>I installed MRTG as per the documentation from MRTG it \
didn’t ask for RRDTool<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if \
!supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US \
style='font-size:11.0pt; color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span lang=EN-US \
style='color:#1F497D'>I selected my location during the install of fedora I \
haven’t done anything else since then<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if \
!supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US \
style='font-size:11.0pt; color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span lang=EN-US \
style='color:#1F497D'>Timezone[myIPaddress_1]:<st1:City \
w:st="on">Amsterdam</st1:City>, Europe … and the other \
Timezone[myIPaddress_1]<st1:City w:st="on">London</st1:City>, Europe \
have also tried GMT+1/ GMT+2 doesn’t matter it only gives \
GMT on both (for <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place \
w:st="on">Amsterdam</st1:place></st1:City> 2 hrs out)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if \
!supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US \
style='font-size:11.0pt; color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span lang=EN-US \
style='color:#1F497D'>How do I tell if I am using a front end I \
view the graphs from a web browser on other PC’s usually \
windows<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=msolistparagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo2'><![if \
!supportLists]><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US \
style='font-size:11.0pt; color:#1F497D'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>5.<font size=1
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> \
</span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font color="#1f497d"><span lang=EN-US \
style='color:#1F497D'>If I don’t use “timezone” the graphs are set \
to the local time of the server if I do use “timezone” the graphs \
are set to GMT regardless of what I try to tell it<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Also is there a way once this works of
MRTG automatically changing from summer to winter time. Date does differ from
country to country<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Nick<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#1F497D;font-weight:
bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Tahoma><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:#1F497D;font-weight:
bold'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Can we have some more \
information?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Are
you running MRTG natively or with RRDTool, and if with RRDTool, which
frontend?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
have you defined the timezone in the server OS?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
have you defined the timezone in the MRTG cfg \
files?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li> <li class=MsoNormal \
style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If
using a MRTG/RRD frontend, how have you defined the timezone in \
there?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li> <li class=MsoNormal \
style='color:navy;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo5'><font size=2
color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>How
is it going wrong – is it just using the server timezone, or are
individual graphs coming in the wrong timezone, or \
what?<o:p></o:p></span></font></li> </ol>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know this /can/ work with devices in
different timezones and their graphs displaying relative to the device’s
timezone rather than the MRTG server’s timezone. Making it display
relative to the browser’s timezone is a bit \
harder.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Steve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
mrtg-bounces@lists.oetiker.ch [mailto:mrtg-bounces@lists.oetiker.ch] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Nick Price<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, 7 October 2009
11:26 a.m.<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName \
w:st="on">mrtg@lists.oetiker.ch</st1:PersonName><br> <b><span \
style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [mrtg] FW: TimeZones</span></font><font \
size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:12.0pt; \
font-family:"Times New Roman"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>Hi All<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>I can’t seem to get the timezone command to display the correct
time<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>I’m running fedora 11 and mrtg 2.16.2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>I am on CET (central European time) GMT \
+2<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>I monitor systems across 4 different time zones<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>If I don’t use the timezone command it display my local time if I
use the timezone command its 2 hrs behind my local time<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>I have tried using <st1:City w:st="on">Amsterdam</st1:City>, <st1:place
w:st="on">Europe</st1:place> or GMT+2 it doesn’t matter it is still the
wrong time<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>Any ideas on how t get this to display the correct \
time<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Calibri><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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