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From:       "Adrian Farrel" <adrian () olddog ! co ! uk>
Date:       2020-12-04 22:31:30
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All,

I think this is a fine idea to update RFC 8287.

I did a quick review which resulted in suggested changes to almost every
paragraph (see attached).

Two points of some note:
1. If you put Section 6 before Section 4 it will make it clearer why the use
of value 1 is not permitted in sub-TLV 35
2. Section 4 includes a "MAY" that is, I think, a MUST. If you intend to
keep it as "MAY" then you need to specify the normal processing.

Best,
Adrian

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Subject: [mpls] MPLS working group last call on
draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ospfv3-codepoint


Working Group,

This is to initiate a two week working group last call on
  draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ospfv3-codepoint-03.

Please send your comments to the mpls wg mailing list (mpls@ietf.org).

There were no IPR disclosures against this document.

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This working group last call ends Dec 18, 2020.


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Network Work group                                             N. Nainar
Internet-Draft                                              C. Pignataro
Updates: 8287 (if approved)                          Cisco Systems, Inc.
Intended status: Standards Track                             M. Aissaoui
Expires: May 24, 2021                                              Nokia
                                                       November 20, 2020


OLD
                   OSPFv3 CodePoint for MPLS LSP Ping
NEW
                   OSPFv3 Code Point for MPLS LSP Ping
END
              draft-ietf-mpls-lsp-ping-ospfv3-codepoint-03

Abstract

OLD
   IANA has created "Protocol in the Segment IS Sub-TLV" registry and
   "Protocol in the Label Stack Sub-TLV of the Downstream Detailed
   Mapping TLV" under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label
   Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry.  RFC8287 defines the
   code point for different Interior Gateway Protocol (IGP).
NEW
   IANA has created the "Protocol in the Segment IS Sub-TLV" and the
   "Protocol in the Label Stack Sub-TLV of the Downstream Detailed
   Mapping TLV" registries under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching
   (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry.
   RFC 8287 defines the code point for OSPF and IS-IS.
END

NOTE
The "clarification" also includes making a specific combination of
Sub-TLV and setting incompatible.  This certainly needs to be flagged up
as part of the update (in this text).  It will also need to be raised as
a backward compatibility issue in Section 3.
END-NOTE
OLD
   This document proposes the code point to be used in the Segment ID
   Sub-TLV and Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV when the IGP protocol is
   OSPFv3.  This document also clarifies that the existing codepoints of
   these two TLVs called "OSPF" shall only be used for OSPFv2.
NEW
   This document defines a new code point to be used in the Segment ID
   Sub-TLV and Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV when the IGP is OSPFv3.
   This document also updates RFC 8287 by clarifying that the existing
   "OSPF" code point is to be used only to indicate OSPFv2, and by
   defining the behavior when the Segment ID Sub-TLV indicates the use
   of IPv6.
END

Status of This Memo

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   This Internet-Draft will expire on May 24, 2021.

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Table of Contents

   1.  Introduction  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   2
   2.  Terminology . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   2
   3.  Requirements notation . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   4.  OSPFv3 protocol in Segment ID Sub-TLVs  . . . . . . . . . . .   3
   5.  OSPFv3 protocol in Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV  . . . . .   3
   6.  OSPFv2 Protocol in Segment ID and DDMAP Sub-TLVs  . . . . . .   3
   7.  IANA Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   3
     7.1.  Protocol in the Segment ID sub-TLV  . . . . . . . . . . .   3
     7.2.  Protocol in Label Stack Sub-TLV of Downstream Detailed
           Mapping TLV . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   8.  Security Considerations . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   9.  Acknowledgement . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   10. Normative References  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   4
   Authors' Addresses  . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .   5

1.  Introduction

OLD
   IANA has created "Protocol in the Segment IS Sub-TLV" registry and
   "Protocol in the Label Stack Sub-TLV of the Downstream Detailed
   Mapping TLV" under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label
   Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry [IANA-MPLS-LSP-PING].
   [RFC8287] defines the code point for different Interior Gateway
   Protocol (IGP).
NEW
   IANA has created the "Protocol in the Segment IS Sub-TLV" and the
   "Protocol in the Label Stack Sub-TLV of the Downstream Detailed
   Mapping TLV" registries under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching
   (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry [IANA-
   MPLS-LSP-PING].  [RFC8287] defines the code point for OSPF and IS-IS.
END

OLD
   [RFC5340] describes OSPF version 3 (OSPFv3) protocol to support IPv6.
   [RFC5838] describes the mechanism to support multiple address
   families (AFs) in OSPFv3.  Accordingly OSPFv3 may be used to
   advertise IPv6 and IPv4 prefixes.
NEW
   [RFC5340] describes OSPF version 3 (OSPFv3) to support IPv6.
   [RFC5838] describes the mechanism to support multiple address
   families (AFs) in OSPFv3.  Accordingly OSPFv3 may be used to
   advertise IPv6 and IPv4 prefixes.
END

OLD
   This document proposes the code point to be used in the Segment ID
   Sub-TLV (Type 34, 35 and 36) and Downstream Detailed Mapping (DDMAP)
   TLV when the IGP protocol is OSPFv3.
NEW
   This document defines a new code point to be used in the Segment ID
   Sub-TLV (Types 34, 35, and 36) and in the Downstream Detailed Mapping
   (DDMAP) TLV when the IGP is OSPFv3.

   This document also updates [RFC8287] by clarifying that the existing
   "OSPF" code point is to be used only to indicate OSPFv2, and by
   defining the behavior when the Segment ID Sub-TLV indicates the use
   of IPv6.
END

2.  Terminology

   This document uses the terminologies defined in [RFC8402], [RFC8029],
   [RFC8287] and so the readers are expected to be familiar with the
   same.



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OLD
3.  Requirements notation
NEW
3.  Requirements Notation
END

   The key words "MUST", "MUST NOT", "REQUIRED", "SHALL", "SHALL NOT",
   "SHOULD", "SHOULD NOT", "RECOMMENDED", "NOT RECOMMENDED", "MAY", and
   "OPTIONAL" in this document are to be interpreted as described in BCP
   14 [RFC2119] [RFC8174] when, and only when, they appear in all
   capitals, as shown here.

OLD
4.  OSPFv3 protocol in Segment ID Sub-TLVs
NEW
4.  Identifying OSPFv3 in Segment ID Sub-TLVs
END

OLD
   When the protocol field of the Segment ID Sub-TLV Type 34, 35 and 36
   is set to TBD1, the responder MUST perform the FEC validation using
   OSPFv3 as the IGP protocol.
NEW
   When the protocol field of the Segment ID Sub-TLV of Type 34, 35, or
   36 is set to TBD1, the responder MUST perform FEC validation using
   OSPFv3 as the IGP.
END

NOTE
This next paragraph is hard to read because it isn't (yet) clear about
the re-scoping of value 1 to mean OSPFv2 only.  I think it means that =
the
current Section 6 needs to come before this section.
END-NOTE
OLD
   The initiator MUST NOT set the protocol field of the Segment ID Sub-
   TLV Type 35 as OSPFv2.
NEW
   The initiator MUST NOT set the protocol field of the Segment ID Sub-
   TLV of Type 35 to "OSPF" (value 1) because OSPFv2 is not compatible
   with the use of IPv6 addresses indicated by this Sub-TLV.
END

NOTE
The use of MAY in the next paragraph is fine except it implies that
there is another (more normal) way of processing the received message.
However, if the protocol were unrecognised, 8327 directs the
implementation to treat as 0.  So there is no other way of behaving.
Thus, I think you need a MUST here. (This is the backward compatibility
issue.)
END-NOTE
OLD
   When the protocol field in the received Segment ID Sub-TLV Type 35 is
   OSPFv2, the responder MAY treat the protocol value as 0 and process
   the as defined in Section 7.4 of [RFC8287].
NEW
   When the protocol field in the received Segment ID Sub-TLV of Type 35
   is "OSPF" (value 1), the responder MUST treat the protocol value as
   "Any IGP Protocol" (value 0) according to step 4a of Section 7.4 of
   [RFC8287].  This allows the responder to support legacy
   implementations that use value 1 to indicate OSPFv3.
END

OLD
5.  OSPFv3 protocol in Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV
NEW
5.  Identifying OSPFv3 in the Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV
END

   The protocol field of the Downstream Detailed Mapping (DDMAP) TLV in
   an echo reply is set to TBD2 when OSPFv3 is used to distribute the
   label carried in the Downstream Label field.

6.  OSPFv2 Protocol in Segment ID and DDMAP Sub-TLVs

   Section 5 of [RFC8287] defines the code point for OSPF to be used in
   the Protocol field of the Segment ID Sub-TLV.  Section 6 of [RFC8287]
   defines the code point for OSPF to be used in the Protocol field of
   the DDMAP TLV.

OLD
   This document clarifies that the above codepoints will be used only
   for OSPFv2.
NEW
   This document specifies that the above code points will be used only
   for OSPFv2.
END

7.  IANA Considerations

7.1.  Protocol in the Segment ID sub-TLV

OLD
   IANA is requested to assign one new code point of OSPFv3 from
   "Protocol in the Segment ID sub-TLV" registry under the "Multi-
   Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping
   Parameters" registry:
NEW
   IANA is requested to assign a new code point from the "Protocol in
   the Segment ID sub-TLV" registry under the "Multi-Protocol Label
   Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters"
   registry as follows.
END






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OLD
     Value        Meaning     Reference
   ----------     -------    ------------
     TBD1          OSPFv3     This document
      1            OSPF        RFC8287
NEW
     Value        Meaning     Reference
   ----------     -------    ------------
     TBD1          OSPFv3     This document
END

OLD
   IANA is also requested to add a clarifying note for the existing
   codepoint 1 (OSPF) as - "To be used for OSPFv2 only".
NEW
   IANA is also requested to add a note for the existing entry for code
   point 1 (OSPF) to read: "To be used for OSPFv2 only".
END

7.2.  Protocol in Label Stack Sub-TLV of Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV

OLD
   IANA is requested to assign one new code point for OSPFv3 from
   "Protocol in Label Stack Sub-TLV of Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV"
   registry under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label
   Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry:
NEW
   IANA is requested to assign one new code point from "Protocol in
   Label Stack Sub-TLV of Downstream Detailed Mapping TLV" registry
   under the "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label Switched Paths
   (LSPs) Ping Parameters" registry as follows.
END

OLD
     Value        Meaning      Reference
   ----------    ---------    ------------
     TBD2         OSPFv3       This document
      5           OSPF          RFC8287
NEW
     Value        Meaning      Reference
   ----------    ---------    ------------
     TBD2         OSPFv3       This document
END

OLD
   IANA is also requested to add a clarifying note for the existing
   codepoint 5 (OSPF) as - "To be used for OSPFv2 only".
NEW
   IANA is also requested to add a note for the existing entry for code
   point 5 (OSPF) to read: "To be used for OSPFv2 only".
END

8.  Security Considerations

   This document updates [RFC8287] and does not introduce any additional
   security considerations.

9.  Acknowledgement

   The authors would like to thank Les Ginsberg, Zafar Ali, Loa
   Andersson, Andrew Molotchko and Deborah Brungard for their review and
   suggestions.

10.  Normative References

   [IANA-MPLS-LSP-PING]
              IANA, "Multi-Protocol Label Switching (MPLS) Label
              Switched Paths (LSPs) Ping Parameters",
              <http://www.iana.org/assignments/mpls-lsp-ping-parameters/
              mpls-lsp-ping-parameters.xhtml>.

   [RFC2119]  Bradner, S., "Key words for use in RFCs to Indicate
              Requirement Levels", BCP 14, RFC 2119,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC2119, March 1997,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc2119>.





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   [RFC5340]  Coltun, R., Ferguson, D., Moy, J., and A. Lindem, "OSPF
              for IPv6", RFC 5340, DOI 10.17487/RFC5340, July 2008,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5340>.

   [RFC5838]  Lindem, A., Ed., Mirtorabi, S., Roy, A., Barnes, M., and
              R. Aggarwal, "Support of Address Families in OSPFv3",
              RFC 5838, DOI 10.17487/RFC5838, April 2010,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc5838>.

   [RFC8029]  Kompella, K., Swallow, G., Pignataro, C., Ed., Kumar, N.,
              Aldrin, S., and M. Chen, "Detecting Multiprotocol Label
              Switched (MPLS) Data-Plane Failures", RFC 8029,
              DOI 10.17487/RFC8029, March 2017,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8029>.

   [RFC8174]  Leiba, B., "Ambiguity of Uppercase vs Lowercase in RFC
              2119 Key Words", BCP 14, RFC 8174, DOI 10.17487/RFC8174,
              May 2017, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8174>.

   [RFC8287]  Kumar, N., Ed., Pignataro, C., Ed., Swallow, G., Akiya,
              N., Kini, S., and M. Chen, "Label Switched Path (LSP)
              Ping/Traceroute for Segment Routing (SR) IGP-Prefix and
              IGP-Adjacency Segment Identifiers (SIDs) with MPLS Data
              Planes", RFC 8287, DOI 10.17487/RFC8287, December 2017,
              <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8287>.

   [RFC8402]  Filsfils, C., Ed., Previdi, S., Ed., Ginsberg, L.,
              Decraene, B., Litkowski, S., and R. Shakir, "Segment
              Routing Architecture", RFC 8402, DOI 10.17487/RFC8402,
              July 2018, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/info/rfc8402>.

Authors' Addresses

   Nagendra Kumar Nainar
   Cisco Systems, Inc.
   7200-12 Kit Creek Road
   Research Triangle Park, NC  27709
   US

   Email: naikumar@cisco.com











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   Carlos Pignataro
   Cisco Systems, Inc.
   7200-11 Kit Creek Road
   Research Triangle Park, NC  27709
   US

   Email: cpignata@cisco.com


   Mustapha Aissaoui
   Nokia
   Canada

   Email: mustapha.aissaoui@nokia.com





































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