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Subject:    Re: [Mingw-msys] MSYS using Junctions quirk
From:       dmccunney <dennis.mccunney () gmail ! com>
Date:       2012-08-28 20:49:23
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On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 4:07 PM, Earnie Boyd
<earnie@users.sourceforge.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 3:30 PM, dmccunney wrote:
>>
>> Which is why I want to be aware of issues.  Mysy mounts are one such:
>> it looks like I ought not to mix Msys tools with others.  The Gnuwin32
>> toolset looks like a reasonably good set of the standard command line
>> tools.  The fun part is a *nix like shell.  I started using Unix with
>> SysVR2 and am an old Korn shell guy, but if it uses the Bourne script
>> language and has decent interactive features like command line
>> editing, aliases, and functions, I can deal. This means bash, mksh,
>> and zsh are usable, but lets out tcsh for anything save occasional
>> use.  Back in the MS-DOS days, I used the MKS Toolkit, largely because
>> they *had* a good Korn shell port.
>
> Bash has decent emulation for standard Bourne shell syntax when named
> sh and has some ksh features.
> http://web.mit.edu/gnu/doc/html/features_3.html

Yep.  I use bash under Linux (and I'm up under Ubuntu 12.04 LTS at the
moment.)  The bash developers appeared to be trying to include
everything *including* the kitchen sink, and produced what you might
get if you merged sh, ksh, and csh in one shell.  In the process, it
got big and resource intensive enough that we got ash, with the shell
language but without the interactive stuff, specifically to run things
like install scripts with less overhead.  (I found one ancient
win-bash port based on bash 1.x, and the FAQ answer to "Why not a more
recent version" is "It runs the scripts we wanted to be able to run.")

AT&T made the real ksh open source, but their license isn't compatible
with things like the GPL, so Cygwin can't include it, and I haven't
seen a Windows version other than AT&T's UWin environment.

(Incompatible licenses are probably the biggest open source stumbling
block I can think of.)

> Earnie
> -- https://sites.google.com/site/earnieboyd
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