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Subject:    Re: [Mifos-developer] interest in an external interface to Mifos
From:       "Tom Bostelmann" <tbostelmann () gmail ! com>
Date:       2007-10-23 20:52:34
Message-ID: dca7158e0710231352p3089515foa5e84a9ccb989f2e () mail ! gmail ! com
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The one caveat with introducing this is that it will quickly lead to the
need for asynchronous transactions.  And that would significantly increase
the complexity of the Mifos architecture.

Of course, the benefits of asynchronous transactions could also open the
ability to use connectionless networks (like mobile devices) and could
alleviate some of the problems with networks that are less then dependable.

On 10/23/07, Tom Bostelmann <tbostelmann@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is a great point because it's a generalization of a framework for
> addressing integration points.
>
> A quick brainstorm of integration points that come to mind:
>
> * General Ledger Mapping
> * Accounting reports/extracts (account debits/credits)
> * Authentication strategies (finger print identification, MD5
> certificates)
> * Authorization
> * Loan configuration (fee calculation/split rules)
> * etc...
>
> I think it would be helpful to list the different types of
> applications/components that could require integration points to Mifos.
> -Tom
>
> On 10/23/07, Andres Pacheco <alps6085@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Wouldn't the functionality you're talking about be covered by an open
> > source EAI platform? Apparently there are quite a few options to choose
> > from..
> >
> > For example, a quick Google search delivers the followin site with a
> > list of such platforms:
> > http://www.manageability.org/blog/stuff/open-source-messaging-integrati=
on-transformation-routing-java/view
> >
> >
> > On 10/23/07, Mayank Upadhayay < Mayank.Upadhayay@sos.sungard.com> wrote=
:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This being an exchange of financial information we need to ensure tha=
t
> > > some sort of message queuing is in place
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some time back as part of one of our researches within the
> > > organization we had planned to look at an option of developing an Ent=
erprise
> > > Messaging Middleware which can queue up messages, send it to the requ=
ired
> > > destination and connect to any application using any communication pr=
otocol.
> > >
> > > A quick brief on what the application can do:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     1. Listen to any application using any communication protocol
> > > (tcp, http, soap, xml etc..).
> > >
> > >     2. A transaction manager which would ensure that every request is
> > > handled within the middleware.
> > >
> > >     3. A Message queue which will queue up messages - (both request
> > > from REQUESTER and response from PROVIDER)
> > >
> > >     4. A Message Manager which would ensure that every message gets
> > > delivered to the required destination (both either REQUESTER or PROVI=
DER)
> > >
> > >     5. A Time Manager which would ensure the life of a Message and
> > > also take care of the response time from the PROVIDER.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > This is a quick thought on what can be built with respect to the
> > > queuing system being discussed as part of interfacing with external s=
ystems
> > > again this will/should evolve and change based on specific
> > > requirements being outlined with respect to MIFOS. Thoughts are welco=
me.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > mayank
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* mifos-developer-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:
> > > mifos-developer-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] * On Behalf Of *Saurab=
h
> > > Kumar
> > > *Sent:* Monday, October 22, 2007 3:33 PM
> > > *To:* Developer
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Mifos-developer] interest in an external interface to
> > > Mifos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello Van,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We have been exploring on SOA, with exposing a MIFOS interface as a
> > > service and acting as a service requestor. We were looking at taking =
it
> > > forward by identifying
> > >
> > >    1. standard XML document
> > >    2. XML Schema Definition
> > >    3. This being an exchange of financial information we need to
> > >    ensure that some sort of message queuing is in place
> > >    4. Encoding of the xml data, converting data to Unicode.
> > >
> > > The idea behind this was to explore options of an inter-application
> > > communication (say another banking application).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Since MIFOS may require communicating with multiple systems we were
> > > also looking at an option of having a transaction manager.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We would be very interested in pursuing this further, any thoughts
> > > would be very helpful.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Thanks & Regards,*
> > >
> > > *Saurabh Kumar*  =95 Developer =95 SunGard =95 Offshore Services =95 =
Divyasree
> > > Chambers, Langford Road, Bangalore 560025 India
> > > Tel    +91-80-2222-0501 =95 Mobile    +91-9886945575 =95 Fax
> > > +91-80-2222-0511 =95 www.sungard.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > >
> > > From: mifos-functional-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:mifos-fu=
nctional-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net<mifos-functional-bounces@lists.sourc=
eforge.net>]
> > > On Behalf Of morris mwanga
> > >
> > > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 6:39 PM
> > >
> > > To: Developer
> > >
> > > Cc: Mifos functional discussions
> > >
> > > Subject: Re: [Mifos-functional] [Mifos-developer] interest in an
> > > externalinterface to Mifos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Community,Van and the Others!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     My name is Morris Mwanga and am using Mifos as a core banking
> > > system in Kenya. I have particular interest in this area. I need mifo=
sto accept iso8583 messages into
> > > Mifos from such channels as mobile phones, ATM' s and POS. I have don=
e
> > > some preliminary work on such an API to access mifos from my switch (
> > > it's java based and built on jPOS, see www.jpos.org). As I am a one
> > > man team, progress has been stunted / next to zero.
> > >
> > >    During the Mifos conference in Nairobi, Kenya . There was
> > > heightened interest on this interface from several of the IT speciali=
sts. My
> > > 2 cents on this?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > SOAP XML?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Morris
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > "One Day The World Will be Ready For You And Wonder How They Didn't
> > > See." - The Eels. Quoted by Chaos Computer Club www.ccc.de
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > *From:* mifos-developer-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net [mailto:
> > > mifos-developer-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net] * On Behalf Of *Van
> > > Mittal-Henkle
> > > *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2007 3:30 AM
> > > *To:* Developer; Mifos functional discussions
> > > *Subject:* [Mifos-developer] interest in an external interface to
> > > Mifos
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To the Mifos Community,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > We have had some inquiries regarding the availability of a means of
> > > accessing Mifos from external systems (in order to integrate Mifoswit=
h an external system).  Some preliminary work has been done to explore a
> > > SOAP interface to Mifos as an example of one possible approach.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I wanted to put this out to the community to gauge what level of
> > > interest there is in such a feature.  If you have a need for an inter=
face to
> > > Mifos that could be used from an external system, please reply to thi=
s
> > > posting.  In your reply, it would be useful to know how you think you=
 could
> > > make use of such an interface to Mifos if it were available.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > >
> > > --Van
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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The one caveat with introducing this is that it will quickly lead to the need for \
asynchronous transactions.&nbsp; And that would significantly increase the complexity \
of the Mifos architecture.<br><br>Of course, the benefits of asynchronous \
transactions could also open the ability to use connectionless networks (like mobile \
devices) and could alleviate some of the problems with networks that are less then \
dependable. <br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/23/07, <b \
class="gmail_sendername">Tom Bostelmann</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:tbostelmann@gmail.com">tbostelmann@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, \
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> This is a great point \
because it&#39;s a generalization of a framework for addressing integration \
points.<br><br>A quick brainstorm of integration points that come to mind:<br><br>* \
General Ledger Mapping<br>* Accounting reports/extracts (account debits/credits) \
<br>* Authentication strategies (finger print identification, MD5 certificates)<br>* \
Authorization<br>* Loan configuration (fee calculation/split rules)<br>* \
etc...<br><br>I think it would be helpful to list the different types of \
applications/components that could require integration points to Mifos. <br><span \
class="sg">-Tom<br><br></span><div><span class="q"><span class="gmail_quote">On \
10/23/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Andres Pacheco</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:alps6085@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> alps6085@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:</span></span><div><span class="e" id="q_115ce9b7c888772d_4"><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

Wouldn&#39;t the functionality you&#39;re talking about be covered by an open source \
EAI platform? Apparently there are quite a few options to choose from..<br><br>For \
example, a quick Google search delivers the followin site with a list of such \
platforms: <br><a href="http://www.manageability.org/blog/stuff/open-source-messaging-integration-transformation-routing-java/view" \
target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.manageability.org/blog/stuff/open-source-messaging-integration-transformation-routing-java/view
 </a><div><span><br><br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 10/23/07, <b \
class="gmail_sendername">Mayank Upadhayay</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:Mayank.Upadhayay@sos.sungard.com" target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">

Mayank.Upadhayay@sos.sungard.com</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
padding-left: 1ex;">





















<div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="EN-US">

<div>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hi All, </span></font></p><span>

<p><font color="#003300" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 51, 0);">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">This being an exchange of financial \
information we need to ensure that some sort of message queuing is in \
place</span></font><font color="navy"><span style="color: navy;" lang="EN-AU"> \
</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; \
color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></font></p></span>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">Some time back as part of one of our \
researches within the organization we had planned to look at an option of developing \
an Enterprise Messaging Middleware which can&nbsp;queue up messages, send it to the \
required destination and connect&nbsp;to any application using any communication \
protocol.</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">A quick brief on what the application \
can do:</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt; \
color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></font><font color="navy" face="Arial" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;" \
lang="EN-AU">


</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 1. Listen to any \
application using any communication protocol (tcp, http, soap, xml \
etc..).</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 2. A transaction \
manager which would ensure that every request is handled within the \
middleware.</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 3. A Message queue \
which will queue up messages - (both request from REQUESTER and response from \
PROVIDER)</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 4. A Message \
Manager which would ensure that every message gets delivered to the required \
destination (both either REQUESTER or PROVIDER)</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. A Time Manager \
which would ensure the life of a Message and also take care of the response time from \
the PROVIDER.</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;" lang="EN-AU">This is&nbsp;a quick thought on what \
can be built with respect to the queuing system being&nbsp;discussed as part of \
interfacing with external systems again this will/should evolve and change based \
on&nbsp;specific requirements&nbsp;being outlined with respect to MIFOS. Thoughts are \
welcome.</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="#333399" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 51, 153);" \
lang="EN-AU">Regards,</span></font><font color="#333399"><span style="color: rgb(51, \
51, 153);"></span>


</font></p>

<p><font color="#333399" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: \
12pt; color: rgb(51, 51, 153);">mayank&nbsp;</span></font></p><span>

<p><font color="#3366ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: rgb(51, 102, 255);">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: \
Tahoma;">-----Original Message-----<br> <b><span style="font-weight: \
bold;">From:</span></b> <a \
href="mailto:mifos-developer-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net" target="_blank" \
onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mifos-developer-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net</a>
 [mailto:<a href="mailto:mifos-developer-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net" \
target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mifos-developer-bounces@lists.sourceforge.net</a>] \
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">


On Behalf Of </span></b></span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Saurabh  Kumar</span></font><font \
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br> \
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font \
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Monday, \
October 22, 2007</span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">


 </span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Tahoma;">3:33 PM</span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br> <b><span style="font-weight: \
bold;">To:</span></b> Developer<br> <b><span style="font-weight: \
bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [<span>Mifos</span>-developer] interest in an external \
interface to <span>Mifos</span></span></font></p>

<p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: \
Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Hello Van,</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">We have been exploring on SOA, with exposing a \
MIFOS interface as a service and acting as a service requestor. We were looking at \
taking it forward by identifying</span></font></p>

<ol start="1" type="a">
 <li style="color: navy;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">standard XML document</span></font> \
<font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">


</span></font></li>
 <li style="color: navy;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">XML Schema Definition</span></font> \
<font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">


</span></font></li>
 <li style="color: navy;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">This being an exchange of financial \
                information we need to ensure
     that some sort of message queuing is in place</span></font> <font face="Arial" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"></span></font></li>  <li \
style="color: navy;"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">Encoding of the xml data, converting data to Unicode. \
</span></font></li> </ol>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">The idea behind this was to explore options of an \
inter-application communication (say another banking application).</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Since MIFOS may require communicating with multiple \
systems we were also looking at an option of having a transaction \
manager.</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">We would be very interested in pursuing this \
<span>further,</span> any thoughts would be very helpful.</span></font></p>

<p><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Arial; color: navy;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><strong><b><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Thanks &amp; \
Regards,</span></font></b></strong><font color="navy" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">


</span></font></p>

<p><strong><b><font color="navy" face="Times New Roman" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">Saurabh Kumar</span></font></b></strong><font \
color="navy" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; color: navy;">


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<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">From:
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On Behalf Of <span>morris</span> <span>mwanga</span></span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Sent:
</span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">Friday,  October 12, 2007</span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;"> </span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">6:39 PM</span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2">


<span style="font-size: 10pt;"></span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">To:
Developer</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Cc:
<span>Mifos</span> functional discussions</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Subject:
Re: [<span>Mifos</span>-functional] [<span>Mifos</span>-developer]
interest in an <span>externalinterface</span> to <span>Mifos</span></span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Hi
<span>Community<span>,Van</span></span> and the
Others!</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span>My name is Morris <span>Mwanga</span> and \
<span>am</span> using <span>Mifos</span> as a core banking system in \
</span></font><font face="Courier New" size="2">


<span style="font-size: 10pt;">Kenya</span></font><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">. I have particular interest in this area. I \
need <span>mifos</span> to accept iso8583 messages into <span>Mifos</span> from such
channels as mobile phones, <span>ATM&#39; s</span> and POS. I have done
some preliminary work on such an API to access <span>mifos</span>
from my switch (<span>it&#39;s</span> java based and built on <span>jPOS</span>, see \
<a href="http://www.jpos.org" target="_blank" onclick="return \
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">www.jpos.org</a>). As I am a one man team, \
progress has been stunted / next to zero.</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;"><span>&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span>During the <span>Mifos</span> conference in \
</span></span></font><span><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">


Nairobi</span></font></span><span><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;">, </span></font></span><span><font face="Courier New" \
size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">Kenya</span></font></span><span>


<font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">.</span></font></span><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt;"> There was heightened interest on this interface from \
several of the IT specialists. <span>My 2 cents on this?</span></span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">SOAP
XML?</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">Cheers</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">Morris</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p><font face="Courier New" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt;">--
</span></font></p>

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<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
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On Behalf Of </span></b>Van <span>Mittal-Henkle</span><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font \
face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">Friday, \
October 12, 2007</span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">


 </span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; \
font-family: Tahoma;">3:30 AM</span></font><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><span \
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;"><br> <b><span style="font-weight: \
bold;">To:</span></b> Developer; <span>Mifos</span> functional discussions<br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> \
[<span>Mifos</span>-developer] interest in an external interface to \
<span>Mifos</span></span></font></p>

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style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">To the <span>Mifos</span> Community,</span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">We have had some inquiries regarding the availability of a \
means of accessing <span>Mifos</span> from external systems (in order to integrate \
<span>Mifos</span> with an external system).&nbsp; Some preliminary work has been \
done to explore a SOAP interface to <span>Mifos</span> as an example of one possible
approach.&nbsp; </span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">I wanted to put this out to the community to gauge what \
level of interest there is in such a feature.&nbsp; If you have a need for an \
interface to <span>Mifos</span> that could be used from an external system, please \
reply to this posting.&nbsp; In your reply, it would be useful to know how you think \
you could make use of such an interface to <span>Mifos</span> if it were \
available.</span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">Cheers,</span></font></p>

<p style="margin-left: 0.5in;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: \
10pt; font-family: Arial;">--Van</span></font></p>

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