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From:       Rayne <gangstified () gmail ! com>
Date:       2008-10-21 5:02:06
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ya i'd take it and move on 2. No use in dwelling on it. Just don't do it
again. I am also an "at will" employee. Here you can get fired if the boss
doesn't like the color of your shoes. We can leave at any time also although
it's always good to give your 2 weeks notice. In fact I was fired from this
call center job due to yahoo chat logs to a girl who worked there. The logs
had "strong sexual undertones" and racial slurs or something like that,
although im black and she's white lol. The bad thing though is that I was at
HOME when it happened talking to her AT WORK. I was OFF THE CLOCK but hey i
moved on.. hacked all their emails and could've made them loose all their
government accounts 2 but hey.  im happy.

2008/10/20 Juan Miguel Paredes <one.miguel@gmail.com>

> Exactly.  Do your research at home.  In the US, most of us are "at will"
> employees.  They don't even need a reason to let you go and you can leave
> without reason as well.  I suppose in France they probably can't do that,
> but violating company rules by installing unauthorized software is bad on
> you.  I'd take it as a life lesson and move on.
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Jefferson, Shawn <
> Shawn.Jefferson@bcferries.com> wrote:
>
>> Good luck in your litigations.  I have no legal advice for you.
>>
>> Corporate policy usually explicitly states that this type of software
>> should not be installed... there may be exceptions for your security
>> staff though.  If I find Metasploit, and Cain (and to a slightly lesser
>> degree nmap and nessus) on a user's workstation, this usually raises
>> massive red flags, and sets in motion the security team... I imagine
>> this is probably the same in your company, or in any company for that
>> matter!
>>
>> It's probably best to install this software on a home lab network for
>> "educational purposes".  :)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: framework-bounces@spool.metasploit.com
>> [mailto:framework-bounces@spool.metasploit.com] On Behalf Of Jerome
>> Athias
>> Sent: October 20, 2008 1:00 PM
>> To: destinataires inconnus
>> Subject: [framework] [Off-Topic] How I was busted. Story of a poor
>> lonesomehacker
>>
>> "How I was busted. Story of a poor lonesome hacker"
>>
>> Hi there,
>>
>> First I would like to say that this post is not technical, and so most
>> of you should save time by not reading it. (I apologize for this.)
>> Then, sorry for my bad english.
>>
>> My name is Jerome Athias, some could know me, some not, but that's not
>> important.
>> You should know that I don't like to speak about me or my private life.
>> Anyway, I think that this story could be of interest.
>>
>> I was employed in a little company, in France (the name of this company
>> will and must remain secret), as programmer analyst.
>> Today, I've been laid off from this job.
>> The main reason for that, between few others, is that I've installed,
>> for educational purposes, "unauthorized hacking tools" (The Metasploit
>> Framework, Tenable Nessus, Cain & Abel... and Nmap) on my work computer.
>> Like you, I care about security an privacy...
>> I am an hacker ("an enthusiastic home computer hobbyist" - Wikipedia),
>> definitely not a cracker.
>> I love liberty, human rights and open mind.
>>
>> I am not claiming charity or money!
>> (But I accept friendly mails and lawyers' assistance.)
>> I just want you to avoid against Big Brother.
>>
>> Take care of yourself!
>> Best regards
>> /JA
>>
>> PS: Respectful of your religion (We are all human, all different, all
>> equal.), I would like personally to salute the life of Soeur Emmanuelle.
>> ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%93ur_Emmanuelle ) - RIP
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<div dir="ltr">ya i&#39;d take it and move on 2. No use in dwelling on it. Just \
don&#39;t do it again. I am also an &quot;at will&quot; employee. Here you can get \
fired if the boss doesn&#39;t like the color of your shoes. We can leave at any time \
also although it&#39;s always good to give your 2 weeks notice. In fact I was fired \
from this call center job due to yahoo chat logs to a girl who worked there. The logs \
had &quot;strong sexual undertones&quot; and racial slurs or something like that, \
although im black and she&#39;s white lol. The bad thing though is that I was at HOME \
when it happened talking to her AT WORK. I was OFF THE CLOCK but hey i moved on.. \
hacked all their emails and could&#39;ve made them loose all their government \
accounts 2 but hey.&nbsp; im happy.<br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">2008/10/20 Juan \
Miguel Paredes <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:one.miguel@gmail.com">one.miguel@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Exactly.&nbsp; Do your research at home.&nbsp; In the \
US, most of us are &quot;at will&quot; employees.&nbsp; They don&#39;t even need a \
reason to let you go and you can leave without reason as well.&nbsp; I suppose in \
France they probably can&#39;t do that, but violating company rules by installing \
unauthorized software is bad on you.&nbsp; I&#39;d take it as a life lesson and move \
on.<div> <div></div><div class="Wj3C7c"><br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Oct 20, 2008 at 11:15 PM, Jefferson, Shawn <span \
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:Shawn.Jefferson@bcferries.com" \
target="_blank">Shawn.Jefferson@bcferries.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">

Good luck in your litigations. &nbsp;I have no legal advice for you.<br>
<br>
Corporate policy usually explicitly states that this type of software<br>
should not be installed... there may be exceptions for your security<br>
staff though. &nbsp;If I find Metasploit, and Cain (and to a slightly lesser<br>
degree nmap and nessus) on a user&#39;s workstation, this usually raises<br>
massive red flags, and sets in motion the security team... I imagine<br>
this is probably the same in your company, or in any company for that<br>
matter!<br>
<br>
It&#39;s probably best to install this software on a home lab network for<br>
&quot;educational purposes&quot;. &nbsp;:)<br>
<div><div></div><div><br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:framework-bounces@spool.metasploit.com" \
target="_blank">framework-bounces@spool.metasploit.com</a><br> [mailto:<a \
href="mailto:framework-bounces@spool.metasploit.com" \
target="_blank">framework-bounces@spool.metasploit.com</a>] On Behalf Of Jerome<br> \
                Athias<br>
Sent: October 20, 2008 1:00 PM<br>
To: destinataires inconnus<br>
Subject: [framework] [Off-Topic] How I was busted. Story of a poor<br>
lonesomehacker<br>
<br>
&quot;How I was busted. Story of a poor lonesome hacker&quot;<br>
<br>
Hi there,<br>
<br>
First I would like to say that this post is not technical, and so most<br>
of you should save time by not reading it. (I apologize for this.)<br>
Then, sorry for my bad english.<br>
<br>
My name is Jerome Athias, some could know me, some not, but that&#39;s not<br>
important.<br>
You should know that I don&#39;t like to speak about me or my private life.<br>
Anyway, I think that this story could be of interest.<br>
<br>
I was employed in a little company, in France (the name of this company<br>
will and must remain secret), as programmer analyst.<br>
Today, I&#39;ve been laid off from this job.<br>
The main reason for that, between few others, is that I&#39;ve installed,<br>
for educational purposes, &quot;unauthorized hacking tools&quot; (The Metasploit<br>
Framework, Tenable Nessus, Cain &amp; Abel... and Nmap) on my work computer.<br>
Like you, I care about security an privacy...<br>
I am an hacker (&quot;an enthusiastic home computer hobbyist&quot; - Wikipedia),<br>
definitely not a cracker.<br>
I love liberty, human rights and open mind.<br>
<br>
I am not claiming charity or money!<br>
(But I accept friendly mails and lawyers&#39; assistance.)<br>
I just want you to avoid against Big Brother.<br>
<br>
Take care of yourself!<br>
Best regards<br>
/JA<br>
<br>
PS: Respectful of your religion (We are all human, all different, all<br>
equal.), I would like personally to salute the life of Soeur Emmanuelle.<br>
( <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%93ur_Emmanuelle" \
target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C5%93ur_Emmanuelle</a> ) - RIP<br> \
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