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Subject:    Re: [Mesa-dev] Drop scons for 20.1?
From:       Jose Fonseca <jfonseca () vmware ! com>
Date:       2020-03-27 17:31:05
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From: Michel Dänzer <michel@daenzer.net>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2020 15:56
To: Jose Fonseca <jfonseca@vmware.com>; Marek Olšák <maraeo@gmail.com>
Cc: Neha Bhende <bhenden@vmware.com>; Kristian Høgsberg <hoegsberg@gmail.com>; Dylan \
                Baker <baker.dylan.c@gmail.com>; mesa-dev \
                <mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [Mesa-dev] Drop scons for 20.1?

On 2020-03-27 2:29 p.m., Jose Fonseca wrote:
> 
> If SCons is such a time sink, then the best we can do is suggest to
> take it off Marge-bot.

That would be something like
https://nam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgitlab.freedesktop.o \
rg%2Fmesa%2Fmesa%2F-%2Fmerge_requests%2F4352&amp;data=02%7C01%7Cjfonseca%40vmware.com% \
7C786cd1eeae684a45dd3a08d7d26766aa%7Cb39138ca3cee4b4aa4d6cd83d9dd62f0%7C0%7C0%7C637209 \
213877300351&amp;sdata=c9OoEsfgpIGhwoewerL%2Fb7ZShTr9CVCtLJdcMPLoUVk%3D&amp;reserved=0 \
then.

Not quite what I had in mind (I suggested take it off Marge-bot, as opposed to take \
it off completely.)  But lets continue the conversion in the MR.

For the record I also did make a \
https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4348 for reducing the \
targets as suggested by Marek, which I'd like to get in first.

> The onus of fixing SCons will go back to us, as it always did
> throughout these the past twelve years.

Not for the last year or so, when it's been part of the pre-merge CI
pipeline?
True.  And while I don't recall asking SCons to be added to pre-merge CI (I certainly \
did not), I do appreciate the effort and grief this might have caused.  Lets take it \
out.  As tiring fixing SCons by ourselves might be, is still better than being \
constantly painted as the bad guys and constantly have to fend off requests to yank \
off SCons.

Jose


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color="#000000" style="font-size:11pt"><b>From:</b> Michel Dänzer \
&lt;michel@daenzer.net&gt;<br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, March 27, 2020 15:56<br>
<b>To:</b> Jose Fonseca &lt;jfonseca@vmware.com&gt;; Marek Olšák \
&lt;maraeo@gmail.com&gt;<br> <b>Cc:</b> Neha Bhende &lt;bhenden@vmware.com&gt;; \
Kristian Høgsberg &lt;hoegsberg@gmail.com&gt;; Dylan Baker \
&lt;baker.dylan.c@gmail.com&gt;; mesa-dev &lt;mesa-dev@lists.freedesktop.org&gt;<br> \
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<div class="PlainText">On 2020-03-27 2:29 p.m., Jose Fonseca wrote:<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; If SCons is such a time sink, then the best we can do is suggest to<br>
&gt; take it off Marge-bot.&nbsp; <br>
<br>
That would be something like<br>
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  then.<br>
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<div class="PlainText">Not quite what I had in mind (I suggested take it off \
Marge-bot, as opposed to take it off completely.)&nbsp; But lets continue the \
conversion in the MR.</div> <div class="PlainText"><br>
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<div class="PlainText">For the record I also did make a&nbsp;<a \
href="https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4348">https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/-/merge_requests/4348</a>&nbsp;for \
reducing the targets as suggested by Marek, which I'd like  to get in first.</div>
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102);"> <div class="BodyFragment"><font size="2"><span style="font-size:11pt">
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&gt; The onus of fixing SCons will go back to us, as it always did<br>
&gt; throughout these the past twelve years.<br>
<br>
Not for the last year or so, when it's been part of the pre-merge CI<br>
pipeline?</div>
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<div class="PlainText">True.&nbsp; And while I don't recall asking SCons to be added \
to pre-merge CI (I certainly did not), I do appreciate the effort and grief this \
might have caused.&nbsp; Lets take it out.&nbsp; As tiring fixing SCons by ourselves \
might be, is still better  than being constantly painted as the bad guys and \
constantly have to fend off requests to yank off SCons.</div> </span></font></div>
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<div class="PlainText">Jose</div>
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