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List:       mandrake-newbie
Subject:    Re: [newbie] linux-out to lunch
From:       robin <robin () bilkent ! edu ! tr>
Date:       2003-11-30 21:18:39
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Mike Adolf wrote:
> On Sunday 30 November 2003 08:08 am, Derek Jennings wrote:
> 
>>On Sunday 30 Nov 2003 12:28 pm, JoeHill wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, 29 Nov 2003 22:35:43 -0500
>>>
>>>Mike Adolf <madolf@dialup4less.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>I added a second user using userdrake. When I tried to logon to the new
>>>>account. I get "No Write Permission on HOME " KDE can't start.  SO,
>>>>although the new home has the same permissions as my home,  I change
>>>>the permission to 777 on new HOME.  Tried to log on again (without
>>>>rebooting), and it worked. I thought, OK problem solved. Wrong! After I
>>>>rebooted, it got the same error, THE PERMISSONS WERE SET BACK TO
>>>>ORIGINAL VALUES!! I repeated the chmod again just to make sure I wasn't
>>>>nuts. I wasn't.
>>>>
>>>>I opened userdrake and it had the userid = 500 and groupid = 500. BUT
>>>>doing an
>>>>
>>>>ls -l on /home shows that the new home has user and group both 502 ????
>>>
>>>BTW, were the two usernames the same? I've never tried to create two
>>>users with the same name, I'm not sure how the system would react with
>>>that. I've certainly never run into this problem creating a new user with
>>>a *different* name before.
>>
>>I'm coming in a bit late here, but can I assume the Original Poster
>>reinstalled their system without reformatting their /home?
>>
>>When you do that it is important to add the users in precisely the same
>>order or else the user will have a different UID/GID and will not own their
>>own home directory.
>>
>>The installer will add users beginning with UID 501, but userdrake will add
>>a user starting from UID 500
>>
>>The solution is not to change the perms to 777, but to change the UID/GID
>>on all the folders in /home
>>
>>derek
> 
> 
> derek,
> 
> You hit the nail on the head!  Long, long time ago when I first installed MDK, 
> I set up a second user for my wife.  However, she wanted nothing to to with 
> linux.  Since then, it was necessary to reinstall linux (no reformatting) and 
> I only created one user.  Now that our windows half is down, waiting on a new 
> modem, she thinks linux might me OK for getting her mail.  So, I used 
> userdrake to set up a second user by the same original name; and I thought 
> the home directory was just created then.  Wrong. It was the old one from 
> before with a UID=502 (as expected since done on an install).  Anyway, I just 
> trashed the directory and made a new user using userdrake.  It used UID= 500.  
> All is well.
> 
> I do feel that the different numbering schems should be cleared up in the next 
> release.
> 
In similar situations, I've found something like "chown -R fred 
/home/fred" to work.  In fact, if you're dealing with lots of users, you 
could probably write a script to do it automatically.

Sir Robin

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Robin Turner
IDMYO
Bilkent Univeritesi
Ankara 06533
Turkey

www.bilkent.edu.tr/~robin




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