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List:       mandrake-cooker-ppc
Subject:    Re: Install fest
From:       Patrick Ladam <ladam () smbh ! smbh ! univ-paris13 ! fr>
Date:       2002-11-27 13:44:24
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Barry Hertzberg wrote:

> >
> >I'm afraid I don't get it.  I actually installed Xpmac and made the
> >changes I posted earlier on my own system.
>
> Okay - but you know what you are doing. I'm a beginner. I had to
> watch someone use Vim to edit. From a neophyte standpoint, having to
> break in and edit files to make a system work is not a smooth
> install. Especially for someone who is coming from Mac OS which
> practically ties your own shoelaces for you. I can't say that I know
> how to edit this file on my own again. You need to write directions
> out that break it all down step by step by step in much more basic
> elements - or edit the installation routine so that it does this for
> the user.
>
> You have directions for the install? For the boot issue? I did not
> see that on the CD. This could have been my own short sightedness. I
> looked for a readme file and I found one that listed the past changes
> over time. I did not see a file called instructions for install or
> anything like that. Where do i find that file?
>
> Yes, you are correct. None of the people I spoke with use Mac at all.
> The people I know that use Mac want to know why I'm not using OSX.
>
> I'd like to wipe things out and try try try again from complete
> scratch. Can you direct me on how to do this? Shall I use my 9.2 CD
> to format the drive and wipe it clean of all partitions and try it
> again?
>
> We got X to run last night but when it rebooted all we got was a
> black screen of death. Nothing on it. At that point I had to pull the
> plug from the wall and take my imac with me.
>
> Thank you,
>
> >  Also, I've probably done
> >hundreds of installs here and haven't hit the bootstrap errors you say
> >we're plagued with.  Several people have fallen into the trap of setting
> >up the bootstrap as /boot. If there is something in our documentation that
> >indicates this is to be done, please someone let me know.  Starting an
> >install with either a previously created bootstrap of Apple_Free pretty
> >much flows through cleanly, and this is what is recommended in the install
> >docs.
> >
> >Unless your LUG folks are familiar with Linux on PPC, it will probably be
> >a bit foreign to them too.  It's just enough different in a few key areas
> >to throw even experienced Linux folks off.
> >
> >Stew Benedict
> >
> >--
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> >PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3
> >IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc
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>
> --
> Barry M. Hertzberg, TTL
>
> Wm. Loesche School
> Information Technology Lab
> 595 Tomlinson Road
> Philadelphia, PA 19116
>
> (215) 961-2519 (voice)
> bhertzberg@phila.k12.pa.us
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> "Experience counts only if you learn from it."
> "Expert advice works only if you listen to it."

Barry,
Let me just tell you that Linux (specially for PPC) has never been
straightforward during
the install process. What you should know or realise is that platforms handle a
load of different
hardware and that each machine is a particular case. The open-source community
does a constant
effort to handle new hardware shipping at high speed and stay tuned with old
hardware at the
same time.
I have been using YellowDog for a few years and came to MDK because everything
worked out
with 8.2 almost straight after the install while YDL 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 was a
nightmare for my machine
(a blue/white G3) : no X, no modem, no printing...
And don't forget you don't pay for open-source software so these people don't
howe you anything.
So do not despair, take a long breath when you enter the unix world, read
carefully the manuals
and appreciate the result...as you say it is not Mac OSX, it's much better.

Sincerely

Bye

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