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List:       mandrake-cooker-i18n
Subject:    Re: [i18n] [CJK] qtimmodule support has been disabled again
From:       Yukiko Bando <ybando () k6 ! dion ! ne ! jp>
Date:       2004-09-25 11:31:32
Message-ID: 200409252031.33033.ybando () k6 ! dion ! ne ! jp
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Hi,

On Saturday 25 September 2004 18:13, UTUMI Hirosi wrote:
> first: If you find bugs, you can tell it to the developers. They will fix
> them. 
> Post your report to qt-Immanuel-ml please.

It's very difficult to know whether a problem is caused by QT-immodule or a 
bug in an application like KWord or KBabel...  Anyway, I'll subscribe to the 
list. 

> You say "qt-immodule has some problems, so remove it please". I don't 
> think it's a good idea. 

That's my personal and honest feeling at the moment. :p  As I said before, it 
did me no good.  

> Qt-immodule has many good features. We can't lose them all.

I'll test it after 10.1. ;)

> second: qt-immodule and XIM can live together. If you want to use XIM, just
> run $ export XMODIFIERS=@im=SCIM
> $ export QT_IM_MODULE=xim

I know that.  The problem is that QT-immodule interfered XIM and normal inputs 
without using any IM.  
 
> Daniel said:
> http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88102
>
> > I have installed alle related packages in 3.3.3-26mdk
>
> (snip)
>
> > It does not change anything : Kword and Konsole do no accept keyboard key
> > combinations for French accentuated characters

I read that, so I tested KWord in two different environments.  I have no idea 
why dead keys don't work for him.  They are just working fine here.  

> I know qt-immodule doesn't work on some Qt apps,
> http://freedesktop.org/pipermail/immodule-qt/2004-September/000542.html
>
> > And there are many other QT/KDE programs that have their own widgets
> > not discendents of QLineEdit or QTextEdit, so just fixing in QT wasn't
> > good enough.
>
> but they are not qt-immodule's problems.

I don't understand technical details, but if QT-immodule affects applications 
that use own widgets, I think it's QT-immodule's problem.  I don't think the 
authors of those applications are willing to rewrite their codes to make them 
compatible with QT-immodule.  Not all people need IMs...        

> All apps have some problems. If Mandrake/Trolltech developers think
> qt-immodule has more advantages for most users, they will apply it. That's
> a issue of balancing.

As Thierry said  «let's hope that qtimmodule will mature in next monthes so 
that mdk10.2 can leap forward regarding CJK support ». :)

Yukiko


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