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List:       mandrake-cooker
Subject:    Re: [Cooker] rpmsrate & task-kde discussion: default KDE desktop
From:       Frederik Himpe <fhimpe () telenet ! be>
Date:       2007-02-14 10:48:47
Message-ID: 20070214104846.GB9489 () telenet ! be
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On Wed, Feb 14, 2007 at 10:14:54AM +0100, Laurent Montel wrote:
> On Monday 12 February 2007, Frederik Himpe wrote:

> > 1. In a default KDE applications, there are at least 3 different picture
> > viewers installed (4 if you also count Digikam/Showfoto). This is really
> > too much:
> > kdegraphics-kuickshow (task-kde)
> > kdegraphics-kview (rpmsrate)
> > gwenview (rpmsrate)
> > digikam (rpmsrate: digikamimageplugins kipi-plugins)
> >
> > Please only keep gwenview and digikam: they are the only ones which are
> > being actively maintained, and have the best features and user interfaces.
> 
> Digikam is is used by camera not as default picture viewer.

Indeed, both have different purposes and Digikam is even useful when you
don't have a digital camera. That's why I propose to keep both gwenview
and digikam, but to not install kview and kuickshow by default anymore.

> > 2. kdenetwork-ksirc (dependency of task-kde): the development of this
> > IRC-client seems halted for some years already, and does not have the best
> > interfaces/features.
> 
> It works fine.
 
> > Please drop it from the default install. If an IRC 
> > client has to be installed, install konversation (which should be moved to
> > main).
> 
> Kopete has irc client too.
> So why install kopete + konversation ?

That's why I said [or meant to say]: IF a [seperate] irc client has to be installed...
[Personally I think the IRC client in Kopete is not good:
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115799
http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=115796

But that's another discussion]

IRC is not used by a lot of non-geek people, so Kopete should be largely
enough in the default installation. Still moving konversation to main
would be a good idea IMO as it is much better than ksirc.

> > 3. kover (rpmsrate): application is dead for about 3 years, and is not
> > rated very high (http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9968).
> > People are better of using something like Scribus, Karbon or OOo Draw to
> > make their cd covers (e.g.
> 
> It's funny :)
> Replace a small program by Scibus or karbon or oodraw :)

Actually Scribus and oodraw are too already installed by default, that's
why I thought having a seperate program seemed superfluous.

> Are you test to create a cover cd with scribus ? karbon ? oodraw ?

I admit not having tested it for cd covers, but with the available
templates, I guess it would work fine. Still, as it seems several people
find kover useful and my proposal is based on assumptions which I did
not test, I agree it is probably best to keep it for now.

Thank you for participating in this discussion!

-- 
Frederik Himpe
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