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Subject: Re: [Mageia-discuss] origin of the name "mageia"?
From: Cassian Braconnnier <ptyxs () free ! fr>
Date: 2010-09-22 7:57:00
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Le 21/09/2010 20:28, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
> 2010/9/21 Maurice Batey<maurice@bcs.org.uk>:
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>> Why does the
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>> http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3095he
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>> pronunciation differ from others in here?!
>>
> Maybe because it is run by a USA based christian organisation who
> focus on the bible while most people here who gave their prononciation
> are native Greek speakers ?
Because this thread is entitled "what is the origin of the word mageia",
I just add the following little piece of information. I had dinner
yesterday in a very pleasant japanese restaurant in Paris, and, well,
one of the participants was an erudite scholar, specialized in ancient
greek. I asked him about "mageia". He said it was a very interesting
term, the origin of which is still much debated. It is generally thought
to be linked to some proper names, like Machaon, a warrior on the side
of the greeks in the Trojan War. Most interestingly Machaon was a valued
surgeon and medic.
My friend said that the root *"mak-"* (considered by philologists to be
linked to both "Machaon" and "mageia") was considered to be a derivative
of a Persian word, meaning something like : *vault*, *protective vault*
and in a more abstact derived meaning : *protective knowledge* (hence
the link with Machaon a character mastering such protective knowledge
as medecine and surgery and the drift toward the "magic" meaning).
The debate about the word is not about what I just summarized, he said,
but rather is this : "are proper names like Machaon, for chararcters
linked to protective knowledge, the origin of the term which then
drifted to a common name like "mageia", or, conversely was the common
name mageia the primary term which then drifted to secondary proper
names such as Machaon?"
Some notion of 'protective knowledge' for the proper name of a Linux
project is perhaps not so bad, don't you think so ?
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Le 21/09/2010 20:28, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
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<pre wrap="">2010/9/21 Maurice Batey <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:maurice@bcs.org.uk"><maurice@bcs.org.uk></a>: </pre>
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<pre wrap="">Why does the
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" \
href="http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3095he">http://www.searchgodsword.org/lex/grk/view.cgi?number=3095he</a>
pronunciation differ from others in here?!
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<pre wrap=""> Maybe because it is run by a USA based christian organisation who
focus on the bible while most people here who gave their prononciation
are native Greek speakers ?</pre>
</blockquote>
Because this thread is entitled "what is the origin of the word
mageia", I just add the following little piece of information. I had
dinner yesterday in a very pleasant japanese restaurant in Paris, and,
well, one of the participants was an erudite scholar, specialized in
ancient greek. I asked him about "mageia". He said it was a very
interesting term, the origin of which is still much debated. It is
generally thought to be linked to some proper names, like Machaon, a
warrior on the side of the greeks in the Trojan War. Most
interestingly Machaon was a valued surgeon and medic.<br>
My friend said that the root *"mak-"* (considered by philologists to
be linked to both "Machaon" and "mageia") was considered to be a
derivative of a Persian word, meaning something like : *vault*,
*protective vault* and in a more abstact derived meaning : *protective
knowledge* (hence the link with Machaon a character mastering such
protective knowledge as medecine and surgery and the drift toward the
"magic" meaning).<br>
The debate about the word is not about what I just summarized, he
said, but rather is this : "are proper names like Machaon, for
chararcters linked to protective knowledge, the origin of the term
which then drifted to a common name like "mageia", or, conversely was
the common name mageia the primary term which then drifted to secondary
proper names such as Machaon?"<br>
Some notion of 'protective knowledge' for the proper name of a Linux
project is perhaps not so bad, don't you think so ?<br>
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