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List:       mad-user
Subject:    [mad-user] Re: Winamp plug-in pre-release 0.12.3b-pre3
From:       naw () pobox ! com (David Shin)
Date:       2000-12-18 9:23:59
Message-ID: 3A3DD7AF.F7700718 () SoftHome ! net
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Roger Ramsey wrote:
> 
> I'm catching up on my reading and by question to you is:
> 
> Why on God's Green Earth would you want absolutely **ANYTHING** to do with
> that retroactive abortion known as Xing **ESPECIALLY** in that pure
> excrement known as its VBR mode?
> 
> Just asking...
> 
> Roj
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Shin" <naw@SoftHome.net>
> To: "MAD User Mailing List" <mad-user@lists.mars.org>
> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:27 AM
> Subject: Re: [mad-user] Re: Winamp plug-in pre-release 0.12.3b-pre3
> 
> > Rob Leslie wrote:
> > >
> > > David Shin <naw@SoftHome.net> wrote:
> > > > I have a question though, how does the gradual attenuation work?
> > >
> > > I thought I explained it succinctly, but I'll try again. :-)
> > >
> > > Whenever clipping occurs, the peak clipped value is examined and a new
> > > attenuation setting is calculated. Previously (or with the "Most"
> sensitivity
> > > setting) the new attenuation is one that would have avoided the clipping
> > > entirely. This can cause sharp drops in the output signal level that may
> not
> > > be desirable, especially if it was only a few clipped samples.
> > >
> > > With a less sensitive setting, the new attenuation is somewhere between
> the
> > > previous setting and one that would avoid the clipping entirely. This
> way, if
> > > clipping continues, the attenuation will gradually still be increased to
> the
> > > point that clipping no longer occurs.
> > >
> > > Once increased, the attenuation is never decreased unless the "Reset"
> button
> > > is pressed in the Statistics tab.
> >
> > Ah, that clarified it.  I just wanted to know where that "between" point
> > was for settings less than Most.  This question sort of went along with
> > my "do you need all those gradations?"  I think a Most and then a Least
> > and Moderate setting is all you'd really need.  But I think 8 gradations
> > is overkill, and doesn't offer any real benefit.  Yet I think a
> > coninuously changing attenuation would be even better.  It doesn't even
> > need to look ahead, like the limiter that Anthony is talking about.
> >
> > > > Is all this pre-releasing building up to a Christmas day present for
> all
> > > > the devoted good little MAD users out there?  If so, reading Xing VBR
> > > > headers is on top of my Santa list!
> > >
> > > Santa is making a list and checking it twice.  ;-)
> >
> > I'll be sure to leave out my virtual milk and cookies!
> >
> > ----------
> >  |      |        <------Oreo
> > ----------

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