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List:       macports-users
Subject:    Re: MacPorts downloaded package with wrong architecture on arm64 machine
From:       Ian Wadham <iandw.au () gmail ! com>
Date:       2022-09-09 5:29:33
Message-ID: BBEB892F-C7F3-448A-AD22-B736B4D80465 () gmail ! com
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Hi Ryan,

Thank you very much for your reply.

> On 9 Sep 2022, at 1:44 pm, Ryan Schmidt <ryandesign@macports.org> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 30, 2022, at 20:57, Ian Wadham wrote:
> > 
> > I recently purchased a new MacBook Pro with Monterey O/S and installed \
> > MacPorts on it from scratch. 
> > I installed the qt4-mac port successfully, but kdelibs4 refused to \
> > install because the qt4-mac port did not support arm64 architecture and \
> > i am on an Apple Silicon arm64 machine. 
> > The problem arose because the installation process for qt4-mac included \
> > the steps: 
> > —>  Attempting to fetch qt4-mac-4.8.7_13.darwin_21.x86_64.tbz from \
> > https://packages.macports.org/qt4-mac —>  Attempting to fetch \
> > qt4-mac-4.8.7_13.darwin_21.x86_64.tbz.rmd160 from \
> > https://packages.macports.org/qt4-mac 
> > The second step succeeded, i.e. MacPorts itself downloaded an \
> > inappropriate package for an Apple Silicon machine. I noticed that some \
> > (maybe not all) of qt4-mac's dependencies were compiled or downloaded \
> > as arm64 code and, curiously, some of Qt4's utility apps work on my \
> > machine, perhaps due to the Rosetta emulator stepping in and taking \
> > over. 
> > The kdelibs4 install failed in the "Computing dependencies…" step, \
> > saying "Error: Cannot install kdelibs4 for the arch arm64 because its \
> > dependency qt4-mac only supports the archs ‘ppc ppc64 i386 x86_64'" 
> > Is this a bug or is it the end of the line for kdelibs4 on arch64? Can \
> > kdelibs4 really build as arch64? And what about its (enormous) list of \
> > other dependencies? Do they all build for arch64? 
> > If there is a bug here, I think it is that MacPorts can download a \
> > package for an inappropriate architecture.
> 
> MacPorts correctly installed qt4-mac for x86_64 on your machine because \
> qt4-mac does not support arm64. The x86_64 qt4-mac will work on your \
> arm64 Mac via Rosetta 2 dynamic translation. 
> kdelibs4, and all other ports that use qt4-mac, need to be declared to be \
> arm64-incompatible, due to qt4-mac's arm64 incompatibility. 
> See https://trac.macports.org/ticket/65765
> 

Even if someone can get kdelibs4 and qt4-mac to play nicely together on \
arm64 Apple Silicon architecture, using Rosetta, I don't hold out much hope \
for kdelibs4's other dependencies, which are numerous and complex and quite \
huge. 

They are one reason why the KDE team switched to a radically different \
library organisation called Frameworks or KF5, based on Qt5.

I think most of the KDE apps have been ported and are up-to-date on KF5 and \
Qt5 and installable in Linux and Windows. But availability on Mac appears \
to be a grey area (pace Homebrew).

The KDE4 versions of the apps still work quite well on MacPorts on an \
x86_64 machine, although KMyMoney4 no longer works for me on my older \
MacBook (2017 vintage).

Cheers,
Ian Wadham.=


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