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List:       macports-users
Subject:    Re: Does MacPorts need ALL of Xcode?
From:       Ian Wadham <iandw.au () gmail ! com>
Date:       2021-10-03 5:08:11
Message-ID: 497DD648-A258-4A43-854E-05D1970C1BF4 () gmail ! com
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> On 2 Oct 2021, at 6:20 pm, Ryan Schmidt <ryandesign@macports.org> wrote:
> 
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 16:36, Ian Wadham wrote:
> 
> > So what is the "recipe" to install just the CLT with no version of Xcode present? And can \
> > that recipe be included in the MacPorts Guide?
> 
> Run
> 
> xcode-select --install
> 
> and click the button to install the command line tools.
> 
> Or download the command line tools installer from the Apple Developer Downloads web site.

OK, thanks Ryan, but how about https://guide.macports.org/#installing.xcode ?

It explicitly says to install Xcode first, as a dependency of MacPorts, and then do \
xcode-select —install, which is what I have been doing for 10 years or more as a MacPorts \
user. And I suppose almost all other MacPorts users have too.

But in that time Xcode has grown from a gigabyte or two to 20 Gb on my current MacOS, Catalina \
10.15.7. That is a significant slice of the SSD storage in a shop-standard MacBook Pro. So if a \
user does not need Xcode as a prerequisite of MacPorts, he/she should not have to carry the \
time and space overheads of downloading, installing and storing it.

My question then is please can https://guide.macports.org/#installing.xcode be re-written to \
help users who do not need Xcode for any other reason?

> > Couldn't those ports list Xcode as a build dependency?
> 
> They do, by using this keyword:
> 
> use_xcode yes

Chris Jones raised the point on 26/27 September on this thread that some ports require Xcode \
and gave this as the reason for MacPorts requiring Xcode.

But how many ports are involved here? What percentage of users are likely to need them? And \
what is the worst that can happen to a user if he/she happens to run into one and does not have \
Xcode installed?

I tried port search use_xcode to try and shed some light on these questions, but it gave "no \
match … found".

Cheers,
Ian Waham.


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