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List:       macports-users
Subject:    Re: Does MacPorts need ALL of Xcode?
From:       Ian Wadham <iandw.au () gmail ! com>
Date:       2021-10-03 5:08:11
Message-ID: 497DD648-A258-4A43-854E-05D1970C1BF4 () gmail ! com
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> On 2 Oct 2021, at 6:20 pm, Ryan Schmidt <ryandesign@macports.org> wrote:
> 
> On Sep 27, 2021, at 16:36, Ian Wadham wrote:
> 
> > So what is the "recipe" to install just the CLT with no version of \
> > Xcode present? And can that recipe be included in the MacPorts Guide?
> 
> Run
> 
> xcode-select --install
> 
> and click the button to install the command line tools.
> 
> Or download the command line tools installer from the Apple Developer \
> Downloads web site.

OK, thanks Ryan, but how about https://guide.macports.org/#installing.xcode \
?

It explicitly says to install Xcode first, as a dependency of MacPorts, and \
then do xcode-select —install, which is what I have been doing for 10 \
years or more as a MacPorts user. And I suppose almost all other MacPorts \
users have too.

But in that time Xcode has grown from a gigabyte or two to 20 Gb on my \
current MacOS, Catalina 10.15.7. That is a significant slice of the SSD \
storage in a shop-standard MacBook Pro. So if a user does not need Xcode as \
a prerequisite of MacPorts, he/she should not have to carry the time and \
space overheads of downloading, installing and storing it.

My question then is please can https://guide.macports.org/#installing.xcode \
be re-written to help users who do not need Xcode for any other reason?

> > Couldn't those ports list Xcode as a build dependency?
> 
> They do, by using this keyword:
> 
> use_xcode yes

Chris Jones raised the point on 26/27 September on this thread that some \
ports require Xcode and gave this as the reason for MacPorts requiring \
Xcode.

But how many ports are involved here? What percentage of users are likely \
to need them? And what is the worst that can happen to a user if he/she \
happens to run into one and does not have Xcode installed?

I tried port search use_xcode to try and shed some light on these \
questions, but it gave "no match … found".

Cheers,
Ian Waham.


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