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List:       macports-users
Subject:    Re: Libkdegames in Mojave (was Re: Jigsaw puzzles)
From:       Ian Wadham <iandw.au () gmail ! com>
Date:       2020-04-13 2:58:05
Message-ID: 31F09761-8CFF-40E1-B803-2386FCA37612 () gmail ! com
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Hi Lenore and Franco,

> On 13 Apr 2020, at 5:18 am, Lenore Horner <LenoreHorner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> 
> Ian, 
> Thanks for the help.  Results below.
> 
> > On Apr 12, 2020, at 01:39, Ian Wadham <iandw.au@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi Lenore,
> > 
> > Can you just try something for me on your Mojave system?
> > 
> > In a Terminal window type the command:
> > 
> > ll /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/Versions

> ls -l /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/Versions
> total 0
> drwxr-xr-x  5 root  wheel  160 Jul 29  2019 A
> lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    1 Aug 19  2019 Current -> A
> 
> That doesn't look different here.

That's odd, I was expecting a B version for whatever Apple OSX is doing now in \
OpenAL.framework in Mojave, with the A version left as it was.

> > The command is said as "ell ell", short for "long list". On my system (High \
> > Sierra) I get output: 
> > drwxr-xr-x  8 root  wheel  256  5 Apr 18:50 A/
> > lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel    1 19 Nov  2017 Current@ -> A
> > 
> > My guess is that, on Mojave, there will be an extra line, listing directory B/, \
> > and Current will point to B. 
> > Please also try the command:
> > 
> > ls /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/Versions/Current/Headers
> > 
> > I get output:
> > 
> > MacOSX_OALExtensions.h  al.h
> > OpenAL.h                alc.h
> > 
> > meaning that the file "al.h" is there to be found.
> ls /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/Versions/Current/Headers
> ls: /System/Library/Frameworks/OpenAL.framework/Versions/Current/Headers: No such \
> file or directory 
> Looks like your bet is right.

Not so, I was expecting there to be at least one header, such as OpenAL.h, which \
incorporates al.h and alc.h (both are referenced by libkdegames code).

Instead we have no headers at all, not even a Headers directory. Weird…

I believe Apple OSX uses OpenAL for its own sounds, which I daresay are still working \
on Mojave and Catalina, so Apple must have some new way of linking the OpenAL package \
into apps and other programs.

I will see if I can escalate this problem via Ticket #57294 or the MacPorts \
Developers' list, but I have been out of touch with both for a long time.

Cheers, Ian W.

> > What output do you get? My guess is that "al.h" will not be there on your Mojave \
> > system. 
> > Cheers, Ian W.
> > 
> > > On 12 Apr 2020, at 1:53 pm, Ian Wadham <iandw.au@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi Lenore,
> > > 
> > > > On 12 Apr 2020, at 1:53 am, Lenore Horner <LenoreHorner@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > Ian, 
> > > > Thanks for a really nice suggestion.
> > > 
> > > Thank you for your kind words, Lenore.
> > > 
> > > > Sadly, libkdegames has had a failure on Mojave for the last 18 months.
> > > 
> > > I am really sorry to hear that. There are so many games in the KDE Games \
> > > collection that would be good for passing time during "lockdown", not just \
> > > Palapeli. 
> > > I have had a look at MacPorts Ticket #57294 and especially at your comment 12 \
> > > and attachment. 
> > > It is certainly odd that KDE's CMake processing reports, from lines 4163 to \
> > > 4173, that it has found the OpenAL and SndFile libraries and include files - \
> > > and where it has found them, see lines 4166 and 4167 - but then the build \
> > > crashes with 
> > > "…/libkdegames-4.14.3/audio/kgopenalruntime_p.h:25:10: fatal error: 'al.h' \
> > > file not found" in lines 4387 to 4391 inclusive. 
> > > Unfortunately I only have High Sierra installed (1 OSX release before Mojave) \
> > > and the last time I built KDE Games from MacPorts was November 2017. However I \
> > > will see if I can recall how the KDE Games builds work and if I can get \
> > > up-to-date with MacPorts, selfupdates and upgrades. I must confess I am \
> > > hopelessly behind with MacPorts maintenance (hell, I'm 82 now), but I did have \
> > > some experience introducing the use of OpenAL into KDE Games several years ago. \
> > > I won't be moving to Mojave any time soon, though. 
> > > Cheers, Ian W.
> > > 
> > > > There's a purported solution followed by a comment that it's not the right \
> > > > way to do things which leaves me debating whether to try a "not right way" \
> > > > solution that is reported to work but will maybe cause strangeness down the \
> > > > road for things that are more critical than a game. Lenore
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mar 29, 2020, at 20:03, Ian Wadham <iandw.au@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you like jigsaw puzzles and are isolated or stuck at home due to \
> > > > > coronavirus and looking for things to do, try the Palapeli port, which is \
> > > > > part of KDE Games 4. 
> > > > > ……………….
> > > > > Enjoy,
> > > > > Ian Wadham.


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