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List:       macports-users
Subject:    Re: Where Is pgAdmin3 Installed?
From:       James Linder <jam () tigger ! ws>
Date:       2018-09-24 2:00:08
Message-ID: CDCB3D94-E76A-4C4C-B90A-630919795B0F () tigger ! ws
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> On 23 Sep 2018, at 8:00 pm, macports-users-request@lists.macports.org wrote:
> 
> So - Mike is a software engineer and has a lifetime in the software industry it \
> appears, and yet how to get from point A to B was not obvious to him. It should be. \
>  I think this points out a common problem people have.

I think your idea is a fine one. For even if Mike has a lifetime etc etc he is not a \
unix expert since the concepts of path, which or find are somewhat alien to him.

> MacPorts has a great deal to offer all these people, but the entry curve is perhaps \
> a bit steep.

Does Macports cater to the OSS unix folk or to the point-n-click crowd?
I like it as it is and would hate to see pointy-clicky accomodation so I think any of \
the standard  "Dummies guide to unix"
would go a long way to solving the problem without macport folk needing to create \
one. I think that once you are skilled enough to understand enough, the task of \
writing a guide becomes very boring and endlessly prone to leaving out a crucial step \
because it is so obvious. EG I write installation howtos for co-workers. How often \
I've had to re-write because I assume the obvious (when Jack got out of the botomless \
pit) ie <dot> and <dot><dot> and many more

> I've been using MacPorts for a decade or more, so most of this stuff is pretty \
> obvious now, but I remember when it wasn't. 
> I think we might use a bit of a one-page introduction for various common software \
> projects — think "A Very Short Introduction to … " — detailing what people \
> might most likely want to use, and a very straightforward set of instructions on \
> getting started. 
> How to use MacPorts to install and use: 
> 
> Databases.
> Compilers.
> Web Services.
> Open-Source Games.
> Software for Math and Physics.
> Software for Teachers.
> Graphics.
> Gnome Software
> 
> People who are currently participating in MacPorts but not so much in the Portfile \
> guts of things might well step forward to write these. 
> We could profile them on the main MacPorts web page.
> 
> 
> Ken
> 
> 
> > On Sep 22, 2018, at 1:26 AM, Mike Crawford <mdcrawford@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > most (basically all) MacPorts GUI applications are installed in
> > > 
> > > /Applications/MacPorts
> > 
> > If it had teeth it woulda bit me.
> > 
> > > > MacPorts doesn't have psql.
> > > 
> > > Yes it does.
> > 
> > No it doesn't.
> > 
> > I've got postgresql10 installed, but it didn't come with psql, nor is
> > psql a package in MacPorts.
> > 
> > There is a question about psql and MacPorts on StackOverflow which
> > suggests getting it from homebrew.
> > 
> > psql is a command-line interface to postgresql.  But I can use
> > /Applications/MacPorts/pgAdmin.app - it's a GUI interface.
> > 
> > I'm going to write a Python web application but I need a manual
> > interface to postgresql so I can re-learn SQL.  I've never used SQL
> > often enough for it to stick.

James=


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