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Subject:    Re: image locations
From:       Richard Kimberly Heck <rikiheck () lyx ! org>
Date:       2018-03-28 15:19:22
Message-ID: 448340c4-a14b-aa23-4f4f-c9bff99ce19d () lyx ! org
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On 03/28/2018 10:11 AM, Marshall Feldman wrote:
>
> Sure sounds like it.
>
> What's remarkable is that it's replicable (always happens) and, in my
> case, depends on the locations of the graphics files.
>
> The fact that I couldn't replicate the bug on a newer version of Mac
> OS may imply the problem lies with the Yosemite version I'm using.
>

I know that Stephan (our main OSX person) has been chasing this sort of
bug for a while. If you have any ideas or insights, you could post them
to lyx-devel.

RIki


>
> On 3/28/18 12:19 AM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>> On 03/27/2018 01:56 PM, Marshall Feldman wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'll hold off for now, as I may have found the problem by accident,
>>> and it's the weirdest thing. It seems that when I insert a graphic
>>> located in the same directory as the document (e.g.,
>>> ./MyGraphic.png) the LyX:Graphics window stays visible. But when the
>>> graphic is located at, e.g., ../images/MyGraphic.png, as soon as one
>>> hits the "Open" button on the graphics browser, the little
>>> LyX:Graphics window scoots behind the currently visible document
>>> window, thereby giving the impression that the dialog window closed
>>> inappropriately.
>>>
>>
>> There have been other reports of this kind of behavior on OSX.
>> Indeed, this sounds like a close relative of bug #10047:
>> https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10047.
>>
>> Riki
>>
>>
>>> On 3/26/18 5:09 PM, Richard Kimberly Heck wrote:
>>>> On 03/26/2018 04:56 PM, Marshall Feldman wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry, Paul. I usually list version and OS first things, but this
>>>>> time it slipped my mind.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm using LyX 2.3.0 on a iMac running Mac OS 10.10.5 (Yosemite).
>>>>>
>>>>> I followed Riki's suggestion and used the window in LyX itself.
>>>>> All I did was:
>>>>>
>>>>>  1. Open my document
>>>>>  2. Navigate to the figure float I want to use.
>>>>>  3. Insert a line above the caption
>>>>>  4. Follow Riki's instructions for turning on the Message Pane and
>>>>>     selecting both debug & graphics messages.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Can you try doing this and selecting JUST graphics messages? The
>>>> general debug messages make it hard to read the log (and all
>>>> TextMetric and focus messages are of that type). It would also help
>>>> if you could do exactly the same thing, but with the image in the
>>>> place that it does work. Then we can compare.
>>>>
>>>> Riki
>>>>
>>>
>>
>


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/28/2018 10:11 AM, Marshall
      Feldman wrote:<br>
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      <p>Sure sounds like it.</p>
      <p>What's remarkable is that it's replicable (always happens) and,
        in my case, depends on the locations of the graphics files.</p>
      <p>The fact that I couldn't replicate the bug on a newer version
        of Mac OS may imply the problem lies with the Yosemite version
        I'm using.<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    I know that Stephan (our main OSX person) has been chasing this sort
    of bug for a while. If you have any ideas or insights, you could
    post them to lyx-devel.<br>
    <br>
    RIki<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:9fe2aa65-f7d3-c76a-5888-21411c9d4803@uri.edu">
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/28/18 12:19 AM, Richard Kimberly
        Heck wrote:<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/27/2018 01:56 PM, Marshall
          Feldman wrote:<br>
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          cite="mid:b8f94b05-f6f6-67f6-23b4-5d6b9b2a078a@uri.edu">
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          <p>Hi,</p>
          <p>I'll hold off for now, as I may have found the problem by
            accident, and it's the weirdest thing. It seems that when I
            insert a graphic located in the same directory as the
            document (e.g., ./MyGraphic.png) the LyX:Graphics window
            stays visible. But when the graphic is located at, e.g.,
            ../images/MyGraphic.png, as soon as one hits the "Open"
            button on the graphics browser, the little LyX:Graphics
            window scoots behind the currently visible document window,
            thereby giving the impression that the dialog window closed
            inappropriately.</p>
        </blockquote>
        <br>
        There have been other reports of this kind of behavior on OSX.
        Indeed, this sounds like a close relative of bug #10047: <a
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10047"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.lyx.org/trac/ticket/10047</a>.<br>
        <br>
        Riki<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        <blockquote type="cite"
          cite="mid:b8f94b05-f6f6-67f6-23b4-5d6b9b2a078a@uri.edu">
          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/26/18 5:09 PM, Richard
            Kimberly Heck wrote:<br>
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03/26/2018 04:56 PM,
              Marshall Feldman wrote:<br>
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              <p>Sorry, Paul. I usually list version and OS first
                things, but this time it slipped my mind.</p>
              <p>I'm using LyX 2.3.0 on a iMac running Mac OS 10.10.5
                (Yosemite).</p>
              <p>I followed Riki's suggestion and used the window in LyX
                itself. All I did was:</p>
              <ol>
                <li>Open my document</li>
                <li>Navigate to the figure float I want to use.</li>
                <li>Insert a line above the caption</li>
                <li>Follow Riki's instructions for turning on the
                  Message Pane and selecting both debug &amp; graphics
                  messages.</li>
              </ol>
            </blockquote>
            <br>
            Can you try doing this and selecting JUST graphics messages?
            The general debug messages make it hard to read the log (and
            all TextMetric and focus messages are of that type). It
            would also help if you could do exactly the same thing, but
            with the image in the place that it does work. Then we can
            compare.<br>
            <br>
            Riki<br>
            <br>
          </blockquote>
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