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Subject: LyX-Outline Update, Build Instructions and Stuff
From: "Rob Oakes" <lyx-devel () oak-tree ! us>
Date: 2010-06-25 18:04:20
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Dear LyX-Users,
As I've gotten several emails already, I thought I would forward this along
to the list.
It appears that there is some interest in trying out the outline
enhancements I've been working on for the past few months. I greatly
appreciate the interest in my little project, I really do.
With that said, there are a things I wanted to share. These are mostly
unrelated points and questions that have swamped my Inbox this morning. In
no particular order:
1) Q: Is LyX-Outline separate from LyX?
A: No. LyX-Outline is not separate from LyX. It will eventually be
integrated into the current trunk (probably sometime after 2.0 is released).
At the moment, LyX trunk is moving toward stable. Injecting a bunch of
untested and unproven code would delay that release and generally cause a
mess. For that reason, the outline additions are being developed in their
own branch (which is regularly merged with trunk).
2) Q: Will this program crash my computer and generally destroy my
life?
A: Quite likely. It's alpha software. Plan accordingly. Nevertheless, if
you would like to see how things are going, feel free to check out and
compile a copy. Instructions can be found at:
http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/06/25/lyx-outline02-1
3) Q: I get errors when trying to compile. I'm using Ubuntu 10.04.
Am I doing something wrong?
A: Yes. You are.
The build process for LyX-Outline is slightly different than that for LyX
and requires cmake. For reasons I don't understand, configuring with
autotools results in problems. For that reason, just use cmake.
4) General Observation: If you have problems compiling lyx-outline,
don't send me email.
This isn't because I don't enjoy receiving emails (because I do), but
rather, it's because private emails don't leave a public foot print. This
morning alone, I've answered addressed the "Use CMake" question three
times.
For this reason, if you have a problem, please leave a comment on the blog
posting. That way, everyone is able to benefit. (It also ensures a more
timely response, since there are dozens of unanswered email in my inbox.)
5) Related Observation: If you have trouble configuring/compiling,
please don't email the lists (either lyx-users or lyx-devel). LyX-Outline
is very much my personal project, and only tangentially related to LyX. The
proper place for those questions is the comments of the aforementioned blog
posting. Though I'm not sure, others may consider "Help!" emails as spam.
Generally spam isn't a popular thing and people don't like it. Nor do they
have warm feelings toward those responsible for it.
6) Additional Related Observation: If you have feature ideas or
comments, *PLEASE DO* email me and maybe copy the list. I'd love to hear if
things work for you, and I'm very open to feature ideas. I've been talking
to Jose about implementing code folding and improved search; but other
thoughts would be appreciated. And this information is sort of relevant to
the future of LyX and might generate interesting discussion.
And . that's about it, really.
Cheers,
Rob
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emails already, I thought I would forward this along to the list.<o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>It appears that there is some \
interest in trying out the outline enhancements I’ve been working on for the \
past few months. I greatly appreciate the interest in my little project, I \
really do.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal>With that said, there are a things I wanted to share. These are \
mostly unrelated points and questions that have swamped my Inbox this morning. \
In no particular order:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p \
class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if \
!supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New \
Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Q: Is \
LyX-Outline separate from LyX?<br><br>A: No. LyX-Outline is not separate \
from LyX. It will eventually be integrated into the current trunk (probably \
sometime after 2.0 is released). At the moment, LyX trunk is moving toward \
stable. Injecting a bunch of untested and unproven code would delay that \
release and generally cause a mess. For that reason, the outline additions are \
being developed in their own branch (which is regularly merged with \
trunk).<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph \
style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span \
style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New \
Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Q: Will this \
program crash my computer and generally destroy my life?<br><br>A: Quite \
likely. It’s alpha software. Plan accordingly. \
Nevertheless, if you would like to see how things are going, feel free to check out \
and compile a copy. Instructions can be found at:<br><br><a \
href="http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/06/25/lyx-outline02-1">http://blog.oak-tree.us/index.php/2010/06/25/lyx-outline02-1</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if \
!supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New \
Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Q: I get errors \
when trying to compile. I’m using Ubuntu 10.04. Am I doing \
something wrong?<br><br>A: Yes. You are.<br><br>The build process for \
LyX-Outline is slightly different than that for LyX and requires cmake. For \
reasons I don’t understand, configuring with autotools results in \
problems. For that reason, just use cmake.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if \
!supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>4)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New \
Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>General \
Observation: If you have problems compiling lyx-outline, don’t send me \
email.<br><br>This isn’t because I don’t enjoy receiving emails (because \
I do), but rather, it’s because private emails don’t leave a public foot \
print. This morning alone, I’ve answered addressed the “Use \
CMake” question three times.<br><br>For this reason, if you have a \
problem, please leave a comment on the blog posting. That way, everyone is able \
to benefit. (It also ensures a more timely response, since there are dozens of \
unanswered email in my inbox.)<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoListParagraph \
style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span \
style='mso-list:Ignore'>5)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New \
Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Related \
Observation: If you have trouble configuring/compiling, please don’t email the \
lists (either lyx-users or lyx-devel). LyX-Outline is very much my personal \
project, and only tangentially related to LyX. The proper place for those \
questions is the comments of the aforementioned blog posting. Though I’m \
not sure, others may consider “Help!” emails as spam. Generally \
spam isn’t a popular thing and people don’t like it. Nor do they \
have warm feelings toward those responsible for it.<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if \
!supportLists]><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>6)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New \
Roman"'> </span></span><![endif]>Additional \
Related Observation: If you have feature ideas or comments, *<b>PLEASE DO</b>* email \
me and maybe copy the list. I’d love to hear if things work for you, and \
I’m very open to feature ideas. I’ve been talking to Jose about \
implementing code folding and improved search; but other thoughts would be \
appreciated. And this information is sort of relevant to the future of LyX and \
might generate interesting discussion.<o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>And … that’s \
about it, really.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal>Rob<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>
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