From lyx-devel  Sat Mar 07 01:44:34 2009
From: rgheck <rgheck () bobjweil ! com>
Date: Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:44:34 +0000
To: lyx-devel
Subject: Re: LyX Outliner and Corkboard - Feature Proposal
Message-Id: <49B1D182.5020104 () bobjweil ! com>
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José Matos wrote:
> On Friday 06 March 2009 13:57:34 Guenter Milde wrote:
>   
>> But it really is:
>>
>>  like a footnote, the float definition can be inside a
>>  paragraph while the output is moved to a different place by the tex
>>  engine.
>>  
>> You can even see the difference:
>>
>> * when you put the float inset into its own paragraph, the following
>>   text is indented (or separated by vspace), as it starts a new paragraph.
>>     
>
> I would argue that this is a limitation/bug of latex. Really.
>
> This would be moot if the paragraph had some kind of special markup, like:
>
> \begin{standard}
> ...
> \end{standard}
>
> or even
>
> \standard{...} if you prefer.
>
> That would allow to leave space for new declarations outside of paragraphs, or 
> for placing a float without affecting near paragraphs.
>
>   
I think this is all the more true of \section, which is really an 
environment, in the sense that it has a defined beginning AND END. I can 
well imagine a system under which sections, and other document 
divisions, were insets, and....

>> OTOH, lists (like itemize) are by default nested inside surrounding
>> paragraph (in the LaTeX source) while separate paragraphs in LyX.
>> You need to insert a "--- Separator ---" or another empty
>> paragraph to have the first paragraph after a list indented.
>>
>>     
the same is of course true of lists. Think of how this ought to be done 
in XML. (Yes, I know, <h1>. But I've got the same problem with <h1>.)

rh