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Subject:    Re: Project lead nominations for standard libraries?
From:       Henning Diedrich <hd2010 () eonblast ! com>
Date:       2010-12-31 21:58:10
Message-ID: 4D1E51F2.7080300 () eonblast ! com
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On 12/31/10 9:23 PM, Chris Babcock wrote:
> the kind [of] language that Python has often promised to be

Hi Chris!

Sorry, can I jump in right there? Just because it's party time.

Python was made to teach programming and for prototyping. Once, 
originally, really, as far as I read. (Replacing ABC [1]).

Lua was made for non-programmers. I am reading Roberto said that. 
Extending SOL, which was pure configuration [2].

That cannot restrict either language to become what ever their fathers 
want them to become. And at least Python, seemingly in presumptuous 
fashion, kind of hides its beginnings under some verbosity [3].

But really, this subtle difference shows, still shows. I admire both for 
their style, and I hate the GIL just as much as I dread # and [1]. It 
has different consequences. But Lua is definitely more accessible than 
Python and that IS because of the subtle difference of how they started 
out and *who* they were meant for [4]. Python was not meant to be 
modest. It happens to disqualify itself for its footprint for some 
stuff. It's not trying to be nice, and very proud about it. Not Lua.

So I plead with you, Roberto, for the soul of Lua, as Chris called out, 
fix # !

Just kidding, I'm 100% sure you will, I could imagine worse things under 
the sun, and I know you stopped reading this thread. Too bad. Let me 
rush out partying for the moment, then I'll be back explaining what I mean.

Well maybe not. But Chris, Lua IS great ;-D !
Henning


[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_(programming_language)
[2] 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_(programming_language)#cite_note-hopl2007-0
[3] 
http://docs.python.org/faq/general#why-was-python-created-in-the-first-place
[4] No, NOT Dutch vs. Brasilians. That's not what I mean. Though it may 
be a valid perspective.

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    On 12/31/10 9:23 PM, Chris Babcock wrote:
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    <br>
    Hi Chris!<br>
    <br>
    Sorry, can I jump in right there? Just because it's party time.<br>
    <br>
    Python was made to teach programming and for prototyping. Once,
    originally, really, as far as I read. (Replacing ABC [1]).<br>
    <br>
    Lua was made for non-programmers. I am reading Roberto said that.
    Extending SOL, which was pure configuration [2].<br>
    <br>
    That cannot restrict either language to become what ever their
    fathers want them to become. And at least Python, seemingly in
    presumptuous fashion, kind of hides its beginnings under some
    verbosity [3].<br>
    <br>
    But really, this subtle difference shows, still shows. I admire both
    for their style, and I hate the GIL just as much as I dread # and
    [1]. It has different consequences. But Lua is definitely more
    accessible than Python and that IS because of the subtle difference
    of how they started out and *who* they were meant for [4]. Python
    was not meant to be modest. It happens to disqualify itself for its
    footprint for some stuff. It's not trying to be nice, and very proud
    about it. Not Lua.<br>
    <br>
    So I plead with you, Roberto, for the soul of Lua, as Chris called
    out, fix # !<br>
    <br>
    Just kidding, I'm 100% sure you will, I could imagine worse things
    under the sun, and I know you stopped reading this thread. Too bad.
    Let me rush out partying for the moment, then I'll be back
    explaining what I mean. <br>
    <br>
    Well maybe not. But Chris, Lua IS great ;-D ! <br>
    Henning<br>
    <br>
    <br>
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href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_(programming_language)">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC_(programming_language)</a><br>
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href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_(programming_language)#cite_note-hopl2007-0">ht \
tp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lua_(programming_language)#cite_note-hopl2007-0</a><br>  \
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href="http://docs.python.org/faq/general#why-was-python-created-in-the-first-place">ht \
tp://docs.python.org/faq/general#why-was-python-created-in-the-first-place</a><br>  \
[4] No, NOT Dutch vs. Brasilians. That's not what I mean. Though it  may be a valid \
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