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From: Steven Spencer <steven.spencer () kdsi ! com>
Date: 2018-02-28 16:16:29
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I'd have to echo Barry. I'm not using Debian, but Ubuntu (so Debian-ish)
and have an entire set of documentation built up on the fat-client
server build that I'd happily share with you if interested. I don't want
to dis another distribution, so that isn't the goal here. We used CentOS
and Fedora Core in the past (actually for many years) and then switched
to Edubuntu, originally, because it had LTSP built-in. We then migrated
to Ubuntu when Edubuntu support went away and in the past year or year
and a half have used the fat-client build routine exclusively. I
recently did a test-build of the fat-client server using a recent
version of the unreleased Ubuntu 18.04, just to make sure that
everything would still work, and it did. Let me know if you are interested.
Thanks,
Steven G. Spencer
On 02/28/2018 09:41 AM, Barry Cisna wrote:
> Have you run memtest86, on this server from a usbstick,,,at bootup?
> Also,, does smartmon show any bad sectors on the HD?
> Sounds like lots of strange HD probs?
> What about trying a different distribution for ltsp? I run
> fedora/centos, since ltsp inception , for about 12 years, until 3
> Years ago. Hated to make a change, to be honest. Centos development
> for ltsp had about come to a stop. Started now using Debian. Works out
> great . just some ideas.
>
> Barry
>
>
>
> On Feb 28, 2018 8:47 AM, "Rolf-Werner Eilert" <rwe-sse@osnanet.de
> <mailto:rwe-sse@osnanet.de>> wrote:
>
> Just to give you one example, this morning my LibreOffice wouldn't
> run anymore. I looked it up, the oosplash binary file was there -
> but completely empty. No one else had this problem, so I waited
> until everyone had gone, I logged out and rebooted the server:
> LibreOffice is back.
>
> ???
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
> Am 18.02.2018 um 13:11 schrieb Barry Cisna:
>
> Rolf,
>
> I never had any luck,,,and tried many times over several years
> copyinga chroot image from a working server to a server that
> was having problems in some fashion,such as what you are
> experiencing. I'm sure most of the copying problem was due to
> the /proc symlinks and many other behind the scenes symlinks.
> Are you sure your switch that feeds the fat clients isn't
> connected (maybe unknowingly) to a rogue dhcp server)?
> Bottom line if you have a decent internet connection,it so
> easy to simply delete the chroot partition by hand then just
> build a new client image.. This can usually be done in 30 mins
> start to finish anymore.
> Let us know what you end up doing.
>
> Barry
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Rolf-Werner Eilert
> <rwe-sse@osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse@osnanet.de>
> <mailto:rwe-sse@osnanet.de <mailto:rwe-sse@osnanet.de>>> wrote:
>
> I answer to my own mail, as the list has reacted only today.
>
> What I eventually did was the latter: I just copied a
> whole i386.img
> I had on another HDD, it was a "clone" of the defect one.
> This one
> has been running without problems until this morning.
>
> What was a bit strange, when I tried to copy the backup
> one into its
> place, it said "Disk full". So I moved the defect one to
> another
> partition and tried again. But still it said "Disk full".
> Only a
> reboot would help, now there was space enough.
>
> The file system on this partition is Btrfs, maybe a
> "feature" of Btrfs?
>
> Thanks for any input!
>
> Rolf
>
>
>
> Am 14.02.2018 um 10:49 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:
>
> (The list hasn't mirrored back my first mail yet, so I
> write
> another one)
>
> Just went to the server room and logged in as root.
> Then tried
> to mount the i386.img, and this was the answer:
>
> BTRFS error (device loop0): parent transid verify
> failed on
> 159907840 wanted 765 found 787
> .
> .
> mount: /dev/loop0: can't read superblock
> .
> .
> ...entering into chroot of i386
>
> But when exiting, it says
>
> exit: umount...not mounted
>
> So, what would you do here: try to repair (and how?)
> or play
> back a backup and hope for the best?
>
> Even if I play in some backup or try to repair the
> file system,
> it would be good to know what has caused this...
>
> Regards
> Rolf
>
>
>
>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I'd have to echo Barry. I'm not using
Debian, but Ubuntu (so Debian-ish) and have an entire set of
documentation built up on the fat-client server build that I'd
happily share with you if interested. I don't want to dis another
distribution, so that isn't the goal here. We used CentOS and
Fedora Core in the past (actually for many years) and then
switched to Edubuntu, originally, because it had LTSP built-in. We
then migrated to Ubuntu when Edubuntu support went away and in the
past year or year and a half have used the fat-client build
routine exclusively. I recently did a test-build of the fat-client
server using a recent version of the unreleased Ubuntu 18.04, just
to make sure that everything would still work, and it did. Let me
know if you are interested.<br>
<br>
Thanks,<br>
Steven G. Spencer<br>
<br>
On 02/28/2018 09:41 AM, Barry Cisna wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAL0AYvdDYctvLooKG7SSG+5qiSm18GK_6kwkCei7z5AL1quQFg@mail.gmail.com">
<div dir="auto">Have you run memtest86, on this server from a
usbstick,,,at bootup?
<div dir="auto">Also,, does smartmon show any bad sectors on the
HD?</div>
<div dir="auto">Sounds like lots of strange HD probs? </div>
<div dir="auto">What about trying a different distribution for
ltsp? I run fedora/centos, since ltsp inception , for about 12
years, until 3 Years ago. Hated to make a change, to be
honest. Centos development for ltsp had about come to a stop.
Started now using Debian. Works out great . just some ideas.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Barry</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 28, 2018 8:47 AM, "Rolf-Werner
Eilert" <<a href="mailto:rwe-sse@osnanet.de"
moz-do-not-send="true">rwe-sse@osnanet.de</a>> wrote:<br
type="attribution">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Just to
give you one example, this morning my LibreOffice wouldn't
run anymore. I looked it up, the oosplash binary file was
there - but completely empty. No one else had this problem,
so I waited until everyone had gone, I logged out and
rebooted the server: LibreOffice is back.<br>
<br>
???<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Rolf<br>
<br>
Am 18.02.2018 um 13:11 schrieb Barry Cisna:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Rolf,<br>
<br>
I never had any luck,,,and tried many times over several
years copyinga chroot image from a working server to a
server that was having problems in some fashion,such as
what you are experiencing. I'm sure most of the copying
problem was due to the /proc symlinks and many other
behind the scenes symlinks.<br>
Are you sure your switch that feeds the fat clients isn't
connected (maybe unknowingly) to a rogue dhcp server)?<br>
Bottom line if you have a decent internet connection,it so
easy to simply delete the chroot partition by hand then
just build a new client image.. This can usually be done
in 30 mins start to finish anymore.<br>
Let us know what you end up doing.<br>
<br>
Barry<br>
<br>
<br>
On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 3:43 AM, Rolf-Werner Eilert <<a
href="mailto:rwe-sse@osnanet.de" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">rwe-sse@osnanet.de</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:rwe-sse@osnanet.de"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rwe-sse@osnanet.de</a>>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
I answer to my own mail, as the list has reacted only
today.<br>
<br>
What I eventually did was the latter: I just copied a
whole i386.img<br>
I had on another HDD, it was a "clone" of the defect
one. This one<br>
has been running without problems until this morning.<br>
<br>
What was a bit strange, when I tried to copy the
backup one into its<br>
place, it said "Disk full". So I moved the defect one
to another<br>
partition and tried again. But still it said "Disk
full". Only a<br>
reboot would help, now there was space enough.<br>
<br>
The file system on this partition is Btrfs, maybe a
"feature" of Btrfs?<br>
<br>
Thanks for any input!<br>
<br>
Rolf<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Am 14.02.2018 um 10:49 schrieb Rolf-Werner Eilert:<br>
<br>
(The list hasn't mirrored back my first mail yet,
so I write<br>
another one)<br>
<br>
Just went to the server room and logged in as
root. Then tried<br>
to mount the i386.img, and this was the answer:<br>
<br>
BTRFS error (device loop0): parent transid verify
failed on<br>
159907840 wanted 765 found 787<br>
.<br>
.<br>
mount: /dev/loop0: can't read superblock<br>
.<br>
.<br>
...entering into chroot of i386<br>
<br>
But when exiting, it says<br>
<br>
exit: umount...not mounted<br>
<br>
So, what would you do here: try to repair (and
how?) or play<br>
back a backup and hope for the best?<br>
<br>
Even if I play in some backup or try to repair the
file system,<br>
it would be good to know what has caused this...<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
Rolf<br>
<br>
<br>
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