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Subject:    AW: Thoughts on 1.3
From:       "Dominik Psenner" <dpsenner () gmail ! com>
Date:       2013-10-28 11:25:34
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Von: Ramon Smits [mailto:ramon.smits@gmail.com] 
Gesendet: Montag, 28. Oktober 2013 12:04
An: Log4NET Dev
Betreff: Re: Thoughts on 1.3

 

Why not just apply semver and make it v2?




-- Ramon

 

On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Dominik Psenner <dpsenner@gmail.com
<mailto:dpsenner@gmail.com> > wrote:

>On 2013-10-25, Dominik Psenner wrote:
>
>>> * the next release will be 1.3.0 and require .NET 2.0 or better
>
>>>  I.e. we remove support for .NET 1.0 and 1.1, Compact Framework 1.0,
>>>  Mono < 2.0, SSCLI and CLI 1.0 frameworks
>
>> That's even worth a +2! ;-)
>
>>> * the main assembly will get a new name like log4net-13.dll, only be
>>>  signed by the new key
>
>>> * we provide two assemblies named log4net.dll signed with the old and
>>>  new key respecitvely that contain type forwards to the new assembly
>>>  only
>
>> I'm afraid that I can't quite grasp all the stuff we could break. We
should
>> definitely work out every possible usecase we may break. We have messed
>> enough and should try to not raise the tempers even more.
>
>Understood, I'll take that to the user list for a bigger audience -
>maybe people will see problems that we are overlooking.

Worth a try.


>>> stuff we haven't talked about, yet:
>
>>> * I'd like to split log4net-13.dll so that the main assembly can be used
>>>  for the client profile and a separate assembly contains the stuff that
>>>  requires System.Web - this way we no longer need the -cp builds.
>
>> The client profile was dropped with .NET 4.5 and previous versions are
>> automatically upgraded to include the missing DLLs once somebody runs an
>> update. Thus I'm not sure if we should really split the library and
double
>> the required efforts.
>
>I see.  I wasn't aware the client profile was dropped again - spending
>most if not all of my working hours in Java land has made me lose track,
>or so it seems.  In that case splitting the assembly doesn't make to
>much sense.
>
>And the client profile builds can be removed when log4net drops support
>for .NET 4.0 ten years from now ;-)

True. I wanted to quote where I have this information from:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc656912.aspx

 


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style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Ramon Smits \
[mailto:ramon.smits@gmail.com] <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Montag, 28. Oktober 2013 \
12:04<br><b>An:</b> Log4NET Dev<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: Thoughts on \
1.3<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>Why not just apply semver and make it v2?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-- \
Ramon<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Mon, Oct \
28, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Dominik Psenner &lt;<a href="mailto:dpsenner@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">dpsenner@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote \
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6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&gt;On 2013-10-25, Dominik Psenner \
wrote:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; * the next release will be 1.3.0 and require .NET 2.0 \
or better<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;I.e. we remove support for .NET 1.0 and 1.1, \
Compact Framework 1.0,<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;Mono &lt; 2.0, SSCLI and CLI 1.0 \
frameworks<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; That's even worth a +2! ;-)<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; * \
the main assembly will get a new name like log4net-13.dll, only be<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; \
&nbsp;signed by the new key<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; * we provide two assemblies named \
log4net.dll signed with the old and<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;new key respecitvely that \
contain type forwards to the new assembly<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; \
&nbsp;only<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; I'm afraid that I can't quite grasp all the stuff we \
could break. We<br>should<br>&gt;&gt; definitely work out every possible usecase we \
may break. We have messed<br>&gt;&gt; enough and should try to not raise the tempers \
even more.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;Understood, I'll take that to the user list for a bigger \
audience -<br>&gt;maybe people will see problems that we are \
overlooking.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Worth a \
try.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>&gt;&gt;&gt; stuff we haven't talked about, \
yet:<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; * I'd like to split log4net-13.dll so that the main \
assembly can be used<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;for the client profile and a separate \
assembly contains the stuff that<br>&gt;&gt;&gt; &nbsp;requires System.Web - this way \
we no longer need the -cp builds.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt; The client profile was dropped \
with .NET 4.5 and previous versions are<br>&gt;&gt; automatically upgraded to include \
the missing DLLs once somebody runs an<br>&gt;&gt; update. Thus I'm not sure if we \
should really split the library and<br>double<br>&gt;&gt; the required \
efforts.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;I see. &nbsp;I wasn't aware the client profile was dropped \
again - spending<br>&gt;most if not all of my working hours in Java land has made me \
lose track,<br>&gt;or so it seems. &nbsp;In that case splitting the assembly doesn't \
make to<br>&gt;much sense.<br>&gt;<br>&gt;And the client profile builds can be \
removed when log4net drops support<br>&gt;for .NET 4.0 ten years from now \
;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>True. I \
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href="http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc656912.aspx" \
target="_blank">http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc656912.aspx</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p \
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