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Subject:    Re: Looking for feedback on moving JMS code to their own packages.
From:       Remko Popma <remko.popma () gmail ! com>
Date:       2014-03-30 23:59:09
Message-ID: ECF0A416-14B0-4B0E-BFEE-D7155C614BBD () gmail ! com
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I disagree.  Why would you want to do that? When you have a production issue and you \
need to look inside the server to see what is going on you cannot restart the process \
to enable JMX... I really think it should be on by default. 

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> On 2014/03/31, at 8:39, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> JMX shoud be off by default IMO? Is there a recommendation or a known pattern in \
> this area? 
> Gary
> 
> 
> > On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.goers@dslextreme.com> wrote:
> > What JaveEE APIs?  JMX was moved to Java SE in 1.5 and 1.6.
> > 
> > Ifm not sure I like the mbeans registering automatically but oh well.
> > 
> > Ralph
> > 
> > > On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Since JMS depends on Java EE APIs, it would make sense to place them in their \
> > > own packages similar to how the db code is handled. I know they work fine as \
> > > is, but it makes it easier to segregate optional dependencies. This would be \
> > > useful for OSGi so that we can use the full set of metadata available without \
> > > requiring all the optional dependencies in the Import-Package attribute. 
> > > -- 
> > > Matt Sicker <boards@gmail.com>
> 
> 
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charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>I disagree. &nbsp;Why would you want to \
do that? When you have a production issue and you need to look inside the server to \
see what is going on you cannot restart the process to enable JMX... I really think \
it should be on by default.&nbsp;<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On \
2014/03/31, at 8:39, Gary Gregory &lt;<a \
href="mailto:garydgregory@gmail.com">garydgregory@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>JMX shoud be off \
by default IMO? Is there a recommendation or a known pattern in this \
area?<br><br></div>Gary<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 30, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ralph Goers <span \
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:ralph.goers@dslextreme.com" \
target="_blank">ralph.goers@dslextreme.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br> <blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">What JaveEE APIs? &nbsp;JMX \
was moved to Java SE in 1.5 and 1.6.<div><br></div><div>I'm not sure I like the \
mbeans registering automatically but oh well.<span class="HOEnZb"><font \
color="#888888"><br> <div><br></div><div>Ralph</div></font></span><div><div \
class="h5"><div><br><div><div>On Mar 30, 2014, at 10:52 AM, Matt Sicker &lt;<a \
href="mailto:boards@gmail.com" target="_blank">boards@gmail.com</a>&gt; \
wrote:</div><br> <blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">Since JMS depends on Java EE \
APIs, it would make sense to place them in their own packages similar to how the db \
code is handled. I know they work fine as is, but it makes it easier to segregate \
optional dependencies. This would be useful for OSGi so that we can use the full set \
of metadata available without requiring all the optional dependencies in the \
Import-Package attribute.<br clear="all">

<div><br></div>-- <br>Matt Sicker &lt;<a href="mailto:boards@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">boards@gmail.com</a>&gt; </div>
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