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Subject:    RE: [load balancing] Alteon :HTTP requests go to failed server
From:       lijian97 () netscape ! net
Date:       2002-12-29 21:00:48
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Hi,

The previous e-mail came from my colleague. Could you tell me where I can get 9.0.42 \
? I would like to try it. Thanks !

Brs,
Jian

lijian97@netscape.net wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Thanks for your infomation.
> 
> I downgraded Alteon to 9.0.41.11. The problem still exists, even I use \
> /oper/slb/dis to disable the real server. I downgraded it back to 8.3.24.7. No any \
> improvement. 
> Nice weekend,
> Kai Wei
> 
> "Cihan Subasi (Garanti Teknoloji)" <CihanS@garanti.com.tr> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > RE: [load balancing] Alteon :HTTP requests go to failed server
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > From my experience I have seen such a behaviour even you disable the server from \
> > /oper/slb menu...I believe 9.0.x would be a solution for it...Try to downgrade to \
> > a stable 9.0.x code...That could work...I am now usinf 10.0.26.6 but going back \
> > to 9.0.42 version... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > 
> > From: lijian97@netscape.net [mailto:lijian97@netscape.net]
> > 
> > Sent: Monday, December 23, 2002 12:07 AM
> > 
> > To: lb-l@vegan.net
> > 
> > Cc: smcnamee@nortelnetworks.com
> > 
> > Subject: RE: [load balancing] Alteon :HTTP requests go to failed server
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi, Scott
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for your prompt answer.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I checked the /cfg/slb/adv/grace. It's disabled. I cleaned the session table and \
> > tried again. The problem is still there. Only new sessions go to working server, \
> > the exisiting sessions still showed up in the session table. From ethereal, I can \
> > see the TCP SYN was sent to failed server continuously. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > If I stop RADIUS service on real server quot;Real 1quot; too, the real server \
> > quot;Real 1quot; is marked as quot;FAILEDquot; and the session table can be \
> > cleaned immediately. From this phonomenon I infer that because RADIUS and HTTP \
> > use same real servers, even in different group. The HTTP session table cannot be \
> > cleaned up when HTTP service went down, if RADIUS service is still running. In \
> > other words, when more than two services are running on the real server. If and \
> > only ifnbsp; the real server is up and running, the session table will not be \
> > cleaned up even one of services on it go down. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > gt;gt; Server Load Balancing Information# dump
> > 
> > Real server state:
> > 
> > nbsp; 1: Real 1, 00:03:ba:00:a8:01, vlan 2, port 6, health 4, FAILED
> > 
> > nbsp; 2: Real 2, 00:03:ba:03:df:64, vlan 2, port 6, health 4, up
> > 
> > Virtual server state:
> > 
> > nbsp; 1: 10.20.68.10,nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 00:00:5e:00:01:03
> > 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; virtual ports:
> > 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 1813: rport 1813, group 1, RADIUS, backup none, script1, UDPS
> > 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; real servers:
> > 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 1: Real 1, backup none, 6 ms, \
> > FAILED 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 2: Real 2, backup none, 23 ms, \
> > upnbsp;nbsp; 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 8080: rport 8080, group 2, HTTP, backup none, script2
> > 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; real servers:
> > 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 1: Real 1, backup none, 7 ms, \
> > FAILED 
> > nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp;nbsp; 2: Real 2, backup none, 6 ms, up
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Do you have more suggestion ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks and Regards,
> > 
> > Jian
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > quot;Scott Mcnameequot; lt;smcnamee@nortelnetworks.comgt; wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > gt;Jian,
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;Try checking cfg/slb/adv grace parameter and make sure it is disabled. Then,
> > 
> > gt;clear the session table and re-try.
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;Regards,
> > 
> > gt;ScottM
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;-----Original Message-----
> > 
> > gt;From: lijian97@netscape.net [mailto:lijian97@netscape.net]
> > 
> > gt;Sent: Sunday, December 22, 2002 2:48 PM
> > 
> > gt;To: lb-l@vegan.net
> > 
> > gt;Subject: [load balancing] Alteon :HTTP requests go to failed server
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;Hello,
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;Our Alteon is running WebOS10.0.26.6. It is used to load balancing RADIUS
> > 
> > gt;and HTTP traffic. The RADIUS application and HTTP application reside in same
> > 
> > gt;physical server with different ports. Put it simply, the configuration is as
> > 
> > gt;follow,, /c/slb/real 1
> > 
> > gt; ena
> > 
> > gt; rip 172.21.112.1
> > 
> > gt;/c/slb/real 2
> > 
> > gt; ena
> > 
> > gt; rip 172.21.112.2
> > 
> > gt;/c/slb/group 1
> > 
> > gt; metric roundrobin
> > 
> > gt; health script1
> > 
> > gt; add 1
> > 
> > gt; add 2
> > 
> > gt; name quot;RADIUSquot;
> > 
> > gt;/c/slb/group 2
> > 
> > gt; metric hash
> > 
> > gt; health script2
> > 
> > gt; add 1
> > 
> > gt; add 2
> > 
> > gt; name quot;HTTPquot;
> > 
> > gt;/c/slb/virt 1
> > 
> > gt; ena
> > 
> > gt; vip 10.20.68.10
> > 
> > gt;/c/slb/virt 1/service 1813
> > 
> > gt; group 1
> > 
> > gt; udp stateless
> > 
> > gt;/c/slb/virt 1/service 8080
> > 
> > gt; group 2
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;One problem is met, when service 8080 failed on real server quot;Real 1quot;, \
> > it is 
> > gt;supposed that the TCP session(port 8080) table for a quot;Real 1quot; should \
> > be 
> > gt;cleaned up immediately because 8080 service failed on quot;Real 1quot;.
> > 
> > gt;Unfortunately the HTTP requests were still distributed to quot;Real 1quot; \
> > even 
> > gt;quot;Real 1quot; under port 8080 is marked FAILED.
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;gt;gt; Server Load Balancing Information# dump
> > 
> > gt;Real server state:
> > 
> > gt; 1: Real 1, 00:03:ba:00:a8:01, vlan 2, port 6, health 4, up
> > 
> > gt; 2: Real 2, 00:03:ba:03:df:64, vlan 2, port 6, health 4, up
> > 
> > gt;Virtual server state:
> > 
> > gt; 1: 10.20.68.10, 00:00:5e:00:01:03
> > 
> > gt; virtual ports:
> > 
> > gt; 1813: rport 1813, group 1, RADIUS, backup none, script1, UDPS
> > 
> > gt; real servers:
> > 
> > gt; 1: Real 1, backup none, 6 ms, up
> > 
> > gt; 2: Real 2, backup none, 23 ms, up
> > 
> > gt; 8080: rport 8080, group 2, HTTP, backup none, script2
> > 
> > gt; real servers:
> > 
> > gt; 1: Real 1, backup none, 7 ms, FAILED
> > 
> > gt; 2: Real 2, backup none, 6 ms, up
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;We expect that session can age out soon, but due to existing session table,
> > 
> > gt;the Alteon always forwards the TCP SYN to failed server (real 1), thus the
> > 
> > gt;TCP session cannot be age out. The session will be in session table for a
> > 
> > gt;long time.
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;Is there anybody met same problem before ? How can I prevent the traffic
> > 
> > gt;from sending to failed server ? Is there any solution for this issue ?
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;Thanks in advance for any help.
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;Merry X'mas
> > 
> > gt;Jian
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
> > gt;System Engineer
> > 
> > gt;
> > 
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