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List:       linux-wlan-user
Subject:    RE: [lwlan-user] Re: This private wlan-user email-list vs a newsgroup
From:       "David Cook" <DavidHCook () comcast ! net>
Date:       2004-07-29 0:53:06
Message-ID: 002001c47506$69dc5f00$630a0a0a () FLATWATER
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Most of what you said was true.

But, you are missing the key difference.
Go into Google and try to display any msg in a search, by
specifying 'gmane.linux.linux-wlan.user' as an
explicit newsgroup to be searched, and NOTHING ever
gets found.  THat's because 'gmane.linux.linux-wlan.user'
is private, and thus it does NOT get indexed by google.

When one 'googles', one normally does NOT specify any
specific newsgroup, thus ALL public newsgroups get searched.
By, because 'gmane.linux.linux-wlan.user' is not one of those
newsgroups, google is blind to our list.  That's the problem
that would be remedied if it were to become a public group.

The behavior that the world (and me) would get benefit from
is that when they were searching 'all groups' (which include
groups like 'alt.internet.wireless'), they would ALSO get hits
into 'gmane.linux.linux-wlan.user', if only it were public.
But, it is 'behind the curtain' and doesn't get considered
in a search.

Do you see the point?


-----Original Message-----
From: linux-wlan-user-bounces@lists.linux-wlan.com
[mailto:linux-wlan-user-bounces@lists.linux-wlan.com]On Behalf Of
Derrick 'dman' Hudson
Sent: July 28, 2004 11:51
To: linux-wlan-user@lists.linux-wlan.com
Subject: [lwlan-user] Re: This private wlan-user email-list vs a
newsgroup


On Wed, Jul 28, 2004 at 09:51:12AM -0400, David Cook wrote:
|
| Why not have this private-email-list instead

It's not private, anyone can subscribe.  What's wrong with email?

| just be a public newsgroup?

It is : gmane.linux.linux-wlan.user

    (eg: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.linux-wlan.user/2421)

| If it lived out in the public newsgroup world, then it would get 'indexed'
| by
| newsgroup spiders and the user community could more readily 'google' their
| keywords and find all this discussion, rather than join this list or learn
| to
| search thru the time-partitioned archives.

gmane already provides what you are asking for.

| I'm sure there must be some negatives of it being public, but I'm
wondering
| whether
| they outweigh the ease-of-use of being able to google and to search and
post
| using
| the much-more-familiar web Google-interface or a standard 'newsreader'.

Actually, mutt is much-more-familiar (to me) than Google's
web newsreader.  IOW "much-more-familiar" is subjective -- some people
like email better and some like usenet better.  gmane lets you choose.

HTH,
-D

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