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Subject:    Re: Lifeview FlyTV-USB2 / SAA7113
From:       Bill Eldridge <bill () rfa ! org>
Date:       2003-08-26 14:42:53
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I think the Pixelview Play TV USB 2.0 Pro is similar, and easier to get 
hold of,
and maybe better supported (I haven't used it, but I have a PlayTV USB 1.1
that's supported by the NT1004 driver - note that you need both the video
chip and the USB driver supported). I think it's around $190 though could
be wrong.

THere's also a Kworld USB 2.0 for $84 US that looked interesting.

Gadi Cohen wrote:

> Hi.
>  
> I'm looking for a video-in / tv tuner solution for my laptop.  My top 
> find as far as affordability, features and availability in my country 
> is concerned, is the LifeView FlyTv-USB2 
> <http://www.lifeview.com.tw/eng/pro_media_ftusb2.html>.  I either want 
> to be sure that this product will work with Linux or find another 
> option which I'll have to have shipped from overseas.  (Hauppage WinTV 
> USB lacks features and is not easily available, Pinnacle PCTV is a bit 
> expensive).
>  
> I wrote to LifeView tech support; they have no Linux drivers but did 
> let on that the FlyTV-USB2 uses the Phillips SAA7113 chipset 
> <http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/SAA7113.html> (didn't say 
> which revision).  The best I can find for this on the 'net is that 
> there is a SAA7113 driver in the usbvision project, and the following 
> seemingly contradictory report in the SAA7113 page 
> <http://www.gdv.uni-hannover.de/%7Ehunold1/linux/saa7146/index.html>:
>
>     So you don't need a driver for the saa711x, but a driver for you
>     graphic adapter that supports the video-in / video-out
>     capabilities. So you should concentrate on finding a driver for
>     that thing first. My driver (and I) cannot help you here!
>     Unfortunately, most firms don't release data sheets for their
>     products into public. But without details about the chipsets and
>     how they are wired together, you are simply out of luck. 
>
> I haven't bought the thing yet so I can't really screw around with 
> various options.  Does anyone have any experience with this card, 
> other cards with this chipset, or other decent USB options (that are 
> USB2, stereo, MPEG encoding, etc.)?  Or does anyone have any helpful 
> information for me in this regard?
>  
> Thanks,
> Gadi
>  
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *Gadi Cohen*
> Habonim Dror Southern Africa
> National Youth Worker and Webmaster 	  	*??? ???*
> ?????? ???? ???? ??????
> ???? ???? ???? ?????? ???
>


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I think the Pixelview Play TV USB 2.0 Pro is similar, and easier to get
hold of,<br>
and maybe better supported (I haven't used it, but I have a PlayTV USB
1.1<br>
that's supported by the NT1004 driver - note that you need both the
video<br>
chip and the USB driver supported). I think it's around $190 though
could<br>
be wrong.<br>
<br>
THere's also a Kworld USB 2.0 for $84 US that looked interesting.<br>
<br>
Gadi Cohen wrote:<br>
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class="385094513-26082003">Hi.</span></font></div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="385094513-26082003">I'm
looking for a video-in / tv tuner solution for my laptop.&nbsp; My top find
as far as affordability, features and availability in my country is
concerned, is the <a
 href="http://www.lifeview.com.tw/eng/pro_media_ftusb2.html">LifeView
FlyTv-USB2</a>.&nbsp; I either want to be sure that this product will work
with Linux or find another option which I'll have to have shipped from
overseas.&nbsp; (Hauppage WinTV USB lacks features and is not easily
available, Pinnacle PCTV is a bit expensive).</span></font></div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="385094513-26082003">I
wrote to LifeView tech support; they have no Linux drivers but did let
on that the FlyTV-USB2 uses the <a
 href="http://www.semiconductors.philips.com/pip/SAA7113.html">Phillips
SAA7113 chipset</a>&nbsp;(didn't say which revision).&nbsp; The best I can find
for this on the 'net is that there is a SAA7113 driver in the usbvision
project, and&nbsp;the following seemingly contradictory report in the <a
 href="http://www.gdv.uni-hannover.de/%7Ehunold1/linux/saa7146/index.html">SAA7113
page</a>:</span></font></div>
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    <dd><font face="Arial"><span class="385094513-26082003"><font
 size="2">So you don't need a driver for the saa711x, but a driver for
you graphic adapter that supports the video-in / video-out
capabilities. So you should concentrate on finding a driver for that
thing first. My driver (and I) cannot help you here! Unfortunately,
most firms don't release data sheets for their products into public.
But without details about the chipsets and how they are wired together,
you are simply out of luck.</font> </span></font></dd>
  </dl>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span class="385094513-26082003">I
haven't bought the thing yet so I can't really screw around with
various options.&nbsp; Does anyone have any experience with this card, other
cards with this chipset, or other decent USB options (that are USB2,
stereo, MPEG encoding, etc.)?&nbsp; Or does anyone have any helpful
information for me in this regard?</span></font></div>
  <div>&nbsp;</div>
  <div><font face="Arial" size="2"><span \
class="385094513-26082003">Thanks,</span></font></div>  <div><font face="Arial" \
size="2"><span class="385094513-26082003">Gadi</span></font></div>  <div>&nbsp;</div>
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