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List:       linux-java
Subject:    Update: Copyright of Beautifier - a fast, small and FREE automatic indenter for java  source files
From:       "Tal Davidson" <tald () md2 ! huji ! ac ! il>
Date:       1998-07-28 16:09:49
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To Jerry and Java-linux users everywhere!

I have updated the copyright to Beautifier a little so that others don't
amusingly misinterpret it has Jerry has.
Beautifier's url is http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidsont/beautifier
Beautifier's updated copyright can be found at
http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidsont/beautifier/copyright.html

The idea behind Beautifier's copyright is simply to be MUCH less restrictive
than GPL while still helping open-source software.

Moreover, ONLY copies and modifications of Beautifier must be under some
derivative of its copyright (as stated in the copyright). Software that
makes use of Beautifier by calling a Beautifier object from within its code
ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT have to be under Beautifier's copyright, it just has to
pass a FREE copy of Beautifier to whoever uses the software, so the user can
too enjoy Beautifier.

Still, if any Open-Source software creator feels that this is too
restrictive, its creator can feel free to contact me for special
authorization of use under his own copyright.

Please write me for any comments, bugs or suggesments for improvement!

Enjoy!
Tal Davidson



-----Original Message-----
From: Tal Davidson <tald@md2.huji.ac.il>
To: java-linux@java.blackdown.org <java-linux@java.blackdown.org>
Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 5:50 PM
Subject: Beautifier - a fast, small and FREE automatic indenter for java
source files


>Jerry!
>
>You raise an absolutely unexpected (and rather amusing) misinterpretation
of
>the copyright.
>I ABSOLUTELY DID NOT MEAN THAT a software that gets passed through the
>Beautifier is a software that uses it - that would simply be a programmer
>using the beautifier on his software just as beautifier is supposed to be
>used.
>
>(Otherwise I would commit MYSELF to a slow and painfull death of eating
>prionted papers with the elegidly smartass copyright on it...)
>
>By 'software using the Beautifier' (i.e. section 7) I ment software that
>makes use of a Beautifier object in its code (i.e. Beautifier beaut = new
>Beautifier(); ...). For example, a java based editor might want to use
>Beautifier for automatic indentation within the editor...
>
>I guess one of the problems of a programmer creating a amateur copyright is
>that you are never sure people understand it as intended... I just hope
that
>others haven't understood it as you wrote, although I haven't yet got any
>letters on such accounts.
>
>
>Enjoy!
>
>Tal Davidson
>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jerry Treweek <J.treweek@lancaster.ac.uk>
>>To: Tal Davidson <tald@md2.huji.ac.il>
>>Cc: java-linux <java-linux@java.blackdown.org>
>>Date: Tuesday, July 28, 1998 11:24 AM
>>Subject: Re: Beautifier - a fast, small and FREE automatic indenter for
>java
>>source files
>>
>>
>>>Hi Tal
>>>
>>>Thanks for your beautifier, but I'm afraid I can't use it because of
>>>your restrictive copyright - in particular:
>>>
>>>
>>>>  * 7. Any software that makes use of this software must state in its
>>documentation
>>>>  *    that "This software uses Beautifier - an Automatic Indentation
>>Filter
>>>>  *    for Java(C) source files, created by Tal Davidson
>>(davidsont@bigfoot.com).
>>>>
>>>
>>>The point is that the software does not "use" Beautifier. It may at some
>>>point in it's creation have been passed through your filter once,
>>>possibly twice, but is no way dependent on it. Imagine if the same
>>>requirement were made for an editor - "This software uses Vi - ...", or
>>>worse, "This software uses cut -..."
>>>
>>>If you can remove this from your copyright I'd be happy to have a look.
>>>
>>>
>>>"Linux - I can't believe its not Microsoft"
>>>Jerry T.
>>>
>>>Tal Davidson wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi! I have created a small (6K), fast and free (open-source)
>>>> automatic indentation filter of java source files, written in pure
>>>> java, named Beautifier. Beautifier can be used either from the command
>>>> line or as a java-class used by other java programs (such as editors,
>>>> pretty printers, etc...). Since posting it a few days ago I have
>>>> recieved a truely unanticipated amount of positive reviews about
>>>> Beautifier, including interest in making it part of the J.O.S. (a
>>>> letter which started with 'Wow' and 'fantastic'!) and FreeBuilder
>>>> projects.Beautifier is currently posted at:
>>>> http://www.bigfoot.com/~davidsont/beautifier Perhaps Beautifier can be
>>>> of help to the java-linux project, and java programmers on linux where
>>>> ever they are... Sincerely yours, Tal Davidsondavidsont@bigfoot.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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