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List:       linux-ide
Subject:    Re: Drives  freeze on Linux appliances.
From:       Robert Hancock <hancockrwd () gmail ! com>
Date:       2009-10-30 0:05:24
Message-ID: 4AEA2DC4.7060704 () gmail ! com
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On 10/29/2009 05:37 AM, Simon Jackson wrote:
> Thanks Alan.
> I posted another snippet from a log on another system which is seeing a similar \
> problem in that a drive seems to have gone for a very long walk. 
> In the second case the log is after a reboot and the drive is not detected \
> correctly. 
> I am wondering if there is a single root cause here.
> 
> In all I have seen in excess of 20 cases of drives dropping out of RAID on \
> different appliances and in all cases the first signs of problems stem from the \
> timeout followed by an ata reset which succeeds to varying degrees. 
> Googling has come up with power as an issue for other instances of this type of \
> problem, but again a faulty PSU seems to be unlikely given the number of units \
> affected. 
> You questioned as to whether smartd is enabled.  The problems have been seen both \
> on systems with smartd enabled and without. 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Cox [mailto:alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk]
> Sent: 29 October 2009 11:17
> To: Simon Jackson
> Subject: Re: Drives freeze on Linux appliances.
> 
> > 2009-10-27T11:34:41+00:00 merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317088.104358] ata1.00: exception \
> > Emask 0x0 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x0 action 0x6 frozen 2009-10-27T11:34:41+00:00 \
> > merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317088.104416] ata1.00: cmd \
> > e7/00:00:00:00:00/00:00:00:00:00/a0 tag 0 2009-10-27T11:34:41+00:00 merc-stm2-1 \
> > kernel: [1317088.104417]          res 40/00:00:00:4f:c2/00:00:00:00:00/00 Emask \
> > 0x4 (timeout) 2009-10-27T11:34:41+00:00 merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317088.104451] \
> > ata1.00: status: { DRDY }
> 
> For some reason the drive decided it was busy, and stayed that way
> 
> > 2009-10-27T11:34:41+00:00 merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317088.104483] ata1: hard \
> > resetting link
> 
> We reset the link (which is the right thing to do)
> > 2009-10-27T11:34:48+00:00 merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317095.795176] ata1: link is slow \
> > to respond, please be patient (ready=0) 2009-10-27T11:34:51+00:00 merc-stm2-1 \
> > kernel: [1317099.906167] ata1: softreset failed (device not ready) \
> > 2009-10-27T11:34:51+00:00 merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317099.906167] ata1: SATA link up \
> > 3.0 Gbps (SStatus 123 SControl 300)
> 
> link level comes back
> 
> > 2009-10-27T11:35:21+00:00 merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317135.829417] ata1.00: qc \
> > timeout (cmd 0xec) 2009-10-27T11:35:21+00:00 merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317135.829426] \
> > ata1.00: failed to IDENTIFY (I/O error, err_mask=0x4) 2009-10-27T11:35:21+00:00 \
> > merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317135.829429] ata1.00: revalidation failed (errno=-5) \
> > 2009-10-27T11:35:21+00:00 merc-stm2-1 kernel: [1317135.829463] ata1: failed to \
> > recover some devices, retrying in 5 secs
> 
> but not the drive.
> 
> (and we then try again a few more times)
> 
> Basically your drive went for a walk and didn't return.
> 
> > This was followed by a whole load of scsi device errors and md raid errors.  In \
> > this case, a reboot of Linux did not resolve the problem, only after a power \
> > cycle of the unit did the device come back to life.
> 
> Sounds like the drive firmware crashed.
> 
> > The problem has been seen both on Seagate and Hitachi HDDs, so I am inclined to \
> > discount a drive issue here. Can anyone shed light on what is happening here?
> 
> Not immediately. If you have smart monitoring running you might want to
> see if turning that off helps. The other sometimes cause of this is power
> but it seems odd to run for such a long time if its a power budget
> problem. Doesn't feel like it fits the evidence.

Could be it only happens if there's a high current draw on both drives 
simultaneously or something (maybe combined with something else 
happening to draw more power than normal, etc), so it might only happen 
intermittently.

This really does sound like a hardware problem though. If it's happening 
on 20 devices it's probably not all defective units, but it could be a 
general design flaw..
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