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Subject: Re: Splitting divisi passages in staves
From: "Adam M. Griggs" <adammgriggs () gmail ! com>
Date: 2024-03-26 13:25:48
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Hello, that's all possible.
The Staff.keepAliveInterfaces part is a bit more tricky but I grappled with
it on this mailing list a few months ago:
https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2023-11/msg00063.html
https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2023-11/msg00072.html
Your score and multi-stave parts are separate from one another and so the
layout of each can be handled with entirely different parameters.
\partCombine has a bit of a quirk you need to be aware of: it doesn't work
when invoked mid-expression. This applies to BOTH parts. So, if one part
has a stretch of multimeasure rests, say R1*14, and you want to change the
\partCombine behaviour part-way in, you'll have to split that into, for
example,
R1*6
[\partCombineApart]
R1*8
IMPORTANT:
You are still required to split that multimeasure rest even if you put the
\partCombineApart command in the other contributing part.
Take a look at those links, test things out, and good luck.
On Tue, 26 Mar 2024, 21:31 YTG 1234, <ytg1234.pm.me@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> I want to set divisi passages (for strings) in the part as separate
> staves, but in the score combined.
>
> I am aware of the \partCombine
> <https://lilypond.org/doc/latest/Documentation/notation/automatic-part-combining>
> functionality, but I'm not sure that it suits this use case. Precisely:
>
> 1. Is there a way to set a minimum length of time for identical notes
> to be merged in unison? That is, only if I have more than one continuous
> bar of unison do I want to actually set the parts as one voice.
> 2. Likewise, I don't want the automatic part-combiner to immediately
> say *"SOLO!"* when the other division has a short rest, but rather
> print the rest.
> 3. In the parts, how can I set unison passages using only one stave? I
> could make the other empty, but I don't know how that affects the combined
> part.
> 4. Not necessary, but could I set (even manually) simpler passages as
> single-staff polyphony in the part, but more complex ones in separate
> staves?
>
> I've taken a look at
> https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/hiding-staves, and
> it seems useful, but I don't know if it can merge unison properly. Perhaps
> I can use this method in the parts together with \partCombine in the
> shared stave, and in the score only use a shared stave. Would that work?
> Would the Staff.keepAliveInterfaces changes mess with the score in any
> way?
>
> But that still doesn't consider points 1-2 above.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
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<div dir="auto"><div>Hello, that's all possible.</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The Staff.keepAliveInterfaces part is a bit \
more tricky but I grappled with it on this mailing list a few months ago:</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a \
href="https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2023-11/msg00063.html">https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2023-11/msg00063.html</a></div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><a \
href="https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2023-11/msg00072.html">https://mail.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2023-11/msg00072.html</a></div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Your score and multi-stave parts are separate \
from one another and so the layout of each can be handled with entirely different \
parameters.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">\partCombine has a bit of \
a quirk you need to be aware of: it doesn't work when invoked mid-expression. \
This applies to BOTH parts. So, if one part has a stretch of multimeasure rests, say \
R1*14, and you want to change the \partCombine behaviour part-way in, you'll have \
to split that into, for example,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto">R1*6</div><div dir="auto">[\partCombineApart]</div><div \
dir="auto">R1*8</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">IMPORTANT:</div><div \
dir="auto">You are still required to split that multimeasure rest even if you put the \
\partCombineApart command in the other contributing part.</div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Take a look at those links, test things out, and \
good luck.</div><div dir="auto"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div \
dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, 26 Mar 2024, 21:31 YTG 1234, <<a \
href="mailto:ytg1234.pm.me@gmail.com">ytg1234.pm.me@gmail.com</a>> \
wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><u></u>
<div>
<p>Hello everyone,</p>
<p>I want to set divisi passages (for strings) in the part as
separate staves, but in the score combined.</p>
<p>I am aware of the <a \
href="https://lilypond.org/doc/latest/Documentation/notation/automatic-part-combining" \
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><font face="monospace">\partCombine</font></a> \
functionality, but I'm not sure that it suits this use case. Precisely:</p>
<ol>
<li>Is there a way to set a minimum length of time for identical
notes to be merged in unison? That is, only if I have more than
one continuous bar of unison do I want to actually set the parts
as one voice.</li>
<li>Likewise, I don't want the automatic part-combiner to
immediately say <i>"SOLO!"</i> when the other division has a
short rest, but rather print the rest.<br>
</li>
<li>In the parts, how can I set unison passages using only one
stave? I could make the other empty, but I don't know how that
affects the combined part.</li>
<li>Not necessary, but could I set (even manually) simpler
passages as single-staff polyphony in the part, but more complex
ones in separate staves?</li>
</ol>
<p>I've taken a look at <a \
href="https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/hiding-staves" \
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/hiding-staves</a>,
and it seems useful, but I don't know if it can merge unison
properly. Perhaps I can use this method in the parts together with
<font face="monospace">\partCombine</font> in the shared stave,
and in the score only use a shared stave. Would that work? Would
the <font face="monospace">Staff.keepAliveInterfaces</font>
changes mess with the score in any way?</p>
<p>But that still doesn't consider points 1-2 above.<br>
</p>
<p>Thanks for any help!<br>
</p>
</div>
</blockquote></div></div></div>
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