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Subject: Re: Lirics in repeated multi-voice bar
From: Jogchum Reitsma <j.reitsma () hccnet ! nl>
Date: 2022-03-31 10:55:23
Message-ID: 8ce5949c-0c17-688b-faef-6030673c6053 () hccnet ! nl
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Op 30-03-2022 om 04:42 schreef David Wright:
> On Tue 29 Mar 2022 at 10:55:01 (-0600), Carl Sorensen wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 5:08 AM Jogchum Reitsma<j.reitsma@hccnet.nl> wrote:
> <...>
> The song has three (double-)verses, and the underlay is trivially
> different for the altos in verse one around measure 7, which might
> be a reason for setting it separately.
>
> (Three lines of German might also be difficult for some.)
Yes, I agree, although I don't think three German lines would pose a
real problem to our (Dutch) choir
> However, the split bass at the end causes no problems at all: just
> add a new voice for one part, and let the lyrics carry through in
> the other (ie no change for them), eg:
>
> fs1 fs4( gs) gs( fs)
> cs\breve
> < fs, cs' >\breve
> << { \voiceTwo fs\breve ~ fs1 fs } \new Voice { \voiceOne cs'\breve ~ cs1 ds } >>
> < gs, cs, >\breve
I'm not sure how to interpret this code. If I insert it on the pace at
hand in my score, I get error messages saying "fs is not a note name",
and so on. Or is the mail system distorting your message?
Deleting all the 's'-es (fs, gs, and so on) of course removes that error
messages. But than I'm not sure why you are coding \breve notes here -
Iḿ not surprised that inserting that in my code gives strange results...
Besides that, the f's should be f-sharp, an the compiler complains about
ties not being able to end.
As I see it, the high bass-line should read (after the half note rest)
g2 | f-sharp1(~ | f-sharp4 e) e2 |
and the lower bass-line
g,2 | f-sharp2( b4 g-sharp | a2) a
The last bar is one voice again, <d d,>2 \fermata r2
See the "original", after which I coded the piece
But maybe I don't understand you correctly?
I think that what you mean by "just add a new voice for one part, and
let the lyrics carry through in the other" is, at least for placing the
lyrics, what I did in my answer to Carl's message (see my reaction to
him above)
> (In case you wonder why there are two parts here, and not chords,
> it is of course because it's \voiceOne cs'\breve cs1( ds)
> in the original score.)
No, I didn't wonder :-)
> Cheers,
> David.
many thanks, and regards, Jogchum
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 30-03-2022 om 04:42 schreef David
Wright:<br>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Tue 29 Mar 2022 at 10:55:01 (-0600), Carl \
Sorensen wrote: </pre>
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<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 5:08 AM Jogchum \
Reitsma <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" \
href="mailto:j.reitsma@hccnet.nl"><j.reitsma@hccnet.nl></a> wrote: </pre>
</blockquote>
<...>
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">The song has three (double-)verses, and the \
underlay is trivially different for the altos in verse one around measure 7, which \
might be a reason for setting it separately.
(Three lines of German might also be difficult for some.)</pre>
</blockquote>
Yes, I agree, although I don't think three German lines would pose a
real problem to our (Dutch) choir
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:20220330024204.GA16667@axis.corp">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">However, the split bass at the end causes no \
problems at all: just add a new voice for one part, and let the lyrics carry through \
in the other (ie no change for them), eg:
fs1 fs4( gs) gs( fs)
cs\breve
< fs, cs' >\breve
<< { \voiceTwo fs\breve ~ fs1 fs } \new Voice { \voiceOne cs'\breve ~ cs1 ds \
} >> < gs, cs, >\breve
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
<p>I'm not sure how to interpret this code. If I insert it on the
pace at hand in my score, I get error messages saying "fs is not a
note name", and so on. Or is the mail system distorting your
message?</p>
<p>Deleting all the 's'-es (fs, gs, and so on) of course removes
that error messages. But than I'm not sure why you are coding
\breve notes here - Iḿ not surprised that inserting that in my
code gives strange results... Besides that, the f's should be
f-sharp, an the compiler complains about ties not being able to
end.</p>
<p>As I see it, the high bass-line should read (after the half note
rest)<br>
g2 | f-sharp1(~ | f-sharp4 e) e2 | <br>
</p>
<p>and the lower bass-line<br>
g,2 | f-sharp2( b4 g-sharp | a2) a <br>
</p>
<p>The last bar is one voice again, <d d,>2 \fermata r2</p>
<p>See the "original", after which I coded the piece</p>
<p>But maybe I don't understand you correctly?<br>
</p>
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<p>I think that what you mean by "just add a new voice for one part,
and let the lyrics carry through in the other" is, at least for
placing the lyrics, what I did in my answer to Carl's message (see
my reaction to him above)<br>
</p>
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:20220330024204.GA16667@axis.corp">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">
(In case you wonder why there are two parts here, and not chords,
it is of course because it's \voiceOne cs'\breve cs1( ds)
in the original score.)</pre>
</blockquote>
No, I didn't wonder :-)
<blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:20220330024204.GA16667@axis.corp">
<pre class="moz-quote-pre" wrap="">Cheers,
David.
</pre>
</blockquote>
<p>many thanks, and regards, Jogchum<br>
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