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Subject: RE: hide entire tuplet entity
From: "Mark Stephen Mrotek" <carsonmark () ca ! rr ! com>
Date: 2018-08-27 22:26:13
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Brett and Trevor,
You could put the pedal in a separate "voice" using:
\new Dynamics {
s4.\sustainOn s\sustainOff |
s\sustainOn s\sustainOff }
for example.
Mark
From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org] On \
Behalf Of Trevor Baca
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2018 10:19 AM
To: Brett Duncan <bdd1967@bigpond.net.au>
Cc: lilypond-user <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: hide entire tuplet entity
Scaling durations is a better way to go: invisible tuplets always somehow manage to \
impact the spacing of other objects in unpredictable ways. And don't be fooled by \
trying to X-extent, Y-extent and friends to false or zero; there's always some small \
thing somewhere that will throw off spacing, and it can potentially take hours to \
notice the fact and then correct it.
Go with duration multipliers (like in Brett's response) or the \scaleDurations \
function.
Trevor.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2018 at 9:03 PM Brett Duncan <bdd1967@bigpond.net.au \
<mailto:bdd1967@bigpond.net.au> > wrote:
One option would be to scale the durations instead of using tuplets,
e.g. you could change
\hideNotes b2. b4\sustainOn b2 \tuplet 3/2{ b8 b4\sustainOff} b4\sustainOn \
\tuplet 3/2{ b8 b8\sustainOff b8 }
to
\hideNotes b2. b4\sustainOn b2 b8*2/3 b4*2/3\sustainOff b4\sustainOn \
b4*2/3\sustainOff b8*2/3
Brett
On 27/8/18 9:04 am, Ryan Michael wrote:
Hello. I am currently working on a piano piece and I want to have sustain spans below \
the bass clef while the left hand is resting for whole measures. I want to the \
sustain to line up with tuplets on the right hand in the treble clef. My current \
strategy is to fake the same phrase in the bass clef but it leaves me with tuplet \
artifacts when I am hiding the notes in the bass clef ├ la :
%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%% bass section mirroring right hand for sustain engraving purposes only
\version "2.18.2"
{
<<
\new Voice { \hideNotes b4 b8 b8\sustainOn b4 b8. b16\sustainOff}
\new Voice { r1}
> >
<<
\new Voice { \hideNotes b2. b4\sustainOn b2 \tuplet 3/2{ b8 b4\sustainOff} \
b4\sustainOn \tuplet 3/2{ b8 b8\sustainOff b8 } b2. }
\new Voice { r1 r1 r1}
> >
}
%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std \
Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'>Brett and Trevor,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std \
Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'>You could put the \
pedal in a separate "voice" using:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std \
Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'>\new Dynamics \
{<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std \
Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'> s4.\sustainOn s\sustainOff \
|<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std \
Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'> s\sustainOn s\sustainOff \
}<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std \
Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'>for \
example.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bulmer MT \
Std Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std \
Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span \
style='font-family:"Bulmer MT Std \
Regular",serif;color:#2F5496'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span \
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> lilypond-user \
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org] <b>On Behalf Of \
</b>Trevor Baca<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 27, 2018 10:19 AM<br><b>To:</b> Brett \
Duncan <bdd1967@bigpond.net.au><br><b>Cc:</b> lilypond-user \
<lilypond-user@gnu.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: hide entire tuplet \
entity<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>Scaling durations is a better way to go: invisible tuplets always \
somehow manage to impact the spacing of other objects in unpredictable ways. And \
don't be fooled by trying to X-extent, Y-extent and friends to false or zero; there's \
always some small thing somewhere that will throw off spacing, and it can potentially \
take hours to notice the fact and then correct it.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Go with duration \
multipliers (like in Brett's response) or the \scaleDurations \
function.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>Trevor.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Aug 26, \
2018 at 9:03 PM Brett Duncan <<a \
href="mailto:bdd1967@bigpond.net.au">bdd1967@bigpond.net.au</a>> \
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC \
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p>One \
option would be to scale the durations instead of using \
tuplets,<o:p></o:p></p><p>e.g. you could change<o:p></o:p></p><p> \
\hideNotes b2. b4\sustainOn b2 \tuplet 3/2{ b8 b4\sustainOff} b4\sustainOn \tuplet \
3/2{ b8 b8\sustainOff b8 }<o:p></o:p></p><p>to \
<o:p></o:p></p><p> \hideNotes b2. b4\sustainOn b2 b8*2/3 \
b4*2/3\sustainOff b4\sustainOn b4*2/3\sustainOff \
b8*2/3<o:p></o:p></p><p><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Brett <o:p></o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 27/8/18 9:04 am, Ryan \
Michael wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote \
style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hello. I am \
currently working on a piano piece and I want to have sustain spans below the bass \
clef while the left hand is resting for whole measures. I want to the sustain to line \
up with tuplets on the right hand in the treble clef. My current strategy is to fake \
the same phrase in the bass clef but it leaves me with tuplet artifacts when I am \
hiding the notes in the bass clef ├ la : <o:p></o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>%%%%%%%%%%%%%<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>%% bass \
section mirroring right hand for sustain engraving purposes \
only<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>\version \
"2.18.2"<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>{<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><<<o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>\new Voice \
{ \hideNotes b4 b8 b8\sustainOn b4 b8. b16\sustainOff}<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>\new Voice { r1}<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>>> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><<<o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>\new Voice \
{ \hideNotes b2. b4\sustainOn b2 \tuplet 3/2{ b8 b4\sustainOff} b4\sustainOn \
\tuplet 3/2{ b8 b8\sustainOff b8 } b2. }<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>\new Voice { r1 r1 r1}<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>>> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>}<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>%%%%%%%%%%%%%<br \
clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p \
class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=SA \
style='font-family:"Mangal",serif'>реР рдирдордГ \
рд╢рд┐рд╡рд╛рдп</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal \
style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>lilypond-user \
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class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- \
<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Trevor \
Ba─Нa<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.trevorbaca.com" \
target="_blank">www.trevorbaca.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a \
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