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Subject: Re: Custom woodwind-diagram
From: Carl Sorensen <c_sorensen () byu ! edu>
Date: 2017-11-22 21:44:53
Message-ID: 8070BE03-9277-4D78-882F-BF797DE727D4 () byu ! edu
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From: Sven Axelsson <sven.axelsson@gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 2:33 PM
To: Carl Sorensen <c_sorensen@byu.edu>
Cc: Mike Solomon <mike@mikesolomon.org>, "lilypond-user@gnu.org" \
<lilypond-user@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Custom woodwind-diagram
On 22 November 2017 at 21:59, Carl Sorensen \
<c_sorensen@byu.edu<mailto:c_sorensen@byu.edu>> wrote:
On 22 November 2017 at 19:48, Sven Axelsson \
<sven.axelsson@gmail.com<mailto:sven.axelsson@gmail.com>> wrote: Having looked some \
more at the documentation and code, I now realise that the gray shading indicates \
various trills. There are many possibilities, but one to indicate just a partially \
covered hole displayed in black seems to be missing. I suggest allowing the notation \
e.g. "one1hF" to indicate a half covered filled hole. It is currently not valid. This \
would need a change to `make-symbol-alist` in define-woodwind-diagrams.scm. My \
Scheme-fu is currently not sufficient to make that change, but I suppose I could \
figure it out eventually.
Why not just use "one" to indicate a half-covered hole? Since there is no graphical \
difference between a half-filled hole and a filled hole, it seems like there does not \
need to be a separate notation for the half-filled whole in the input.
Sure there is a difference, see \
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/woodwind-diagrams for "one1qT3q" \
for instance. Using "one 1h" as of now, the hole is displayed half covered gray. I'd \
like some way to display it half covered black without breaking existing usage.
Oh, I misunderstood what you wanted. I thought you wanted to have a black filled \
hole, not a black half-filled hole.
One way to do this would be to develop a new notation, as you suggest. I would \
suggest that a notation of one1hB would be better than one1hF, because both the \
default half-covered diagram and the new half-covered diagram are half-filled; the \
difference is the color.
Another way would be to have a property that defines the fill color. The default \
value for the property would be gray, but it could be set to black. Or potentially \
any other color that was wanted (say red, or green, or yellow).
Thanks,
Carl
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<sven.axelsson@gmail.com><br> <b>Date: </b>Wednesday, November 22, 2017 at 2:33 \
PM<br> <b>To: </b>Carl Sorensen <c_sorensen@byu.edu><br>
<b>Cc: </b>Mike Solomon <mike@mikesolomon.org>, \
"lilypond-user@gnu.org" <lilypond-user@gnu.org><br> <b>Subject: \
</b>Re: Custom woodwind-diagram<o:p></o:p></span></p> <div>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">On 22 November 2017 at 21:59, Carl \
Sorensen <<a href="mailto:c_sorensen@byu.edu" \
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<span class="gmail-">On 22 November 2017 at 19:48, Sven Axelsson <<a \
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class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in"><span class="gmail-">Having looked some \
more at the documentation and code, I now realise that the gray shading indicates \
various trills. There are many possibilities, but one to indicate just a partially \
covered hole displayed in black seems to be missing. I suggest allowing the notation \
e.g. "one1hF" to indicate a half covered filled hole. It is currently not \
valid. This would need a change to `make-symbol-alist` in \
define-woodwind-diagrams.scm. My Scheme-fu is currently not sufficient to make that \
change, but I suppose I could figure it out eventually.</span><o:p></o:p></p> \
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Why not just use "one" to indicate a half-covered hole? Since there \
is no graphical difference between a half-filled hole and a filled hole, it seems \
like there does not need to be a separate notation for the half-filled whole in the \
input.<o:p></o:p></p> </blockquote>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.5in">Sure there is a difference, see <a \
href="http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/woodwind-diagrams"> \
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.19/Documentation/notation/woodwind-diagrams</a> for \
"one1qT3q" for instance. Using "one 1h" as of now, the hole is \
displayed half covered gray. I'd like some way to display it half covered black \
without breaking existing usage.<o:p></o:p></p> <p \
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal">Oh, I misunderstood what \
you wanted. I thought you wanted to have a black filled hole, not a black \
half-filled hole. <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">One way to do this would be to develop a new notation, as you \
suggest. I would suggest that a notation of one1hB would be better than \
one1hF, because both the default half-covered diagram and the new half-covered \
diagram are half-filled; the difference is the color.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Another way would be to have a property that defines the fill \
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black. Or potentially any other color that was wanted (say red, or green, or \
yellow).<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Carl<o:p></o:p></p>
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