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Subject: Re: \transposition question
From: Flaming Hakama by Elaine <elaine () flaminghakama ! com>
Date: 2017-08-31 23:13:37
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> From: Gregrs <gregrs@fastmail.co.uk>
> To: Menu Jacques <imj-219@bluewin.ch>
> Cc: Lilypond-usermailinglist <lilypond-user@gnu.org>
> Bcc:
> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2017 21:52:00 +0100
> Subject: Re: \transposition question
> On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 09:50:05PM +0200, Menu Jacques wrote:
>
> Hello folks,
>>
>> I'm trying to understand how \transposition works with enharmony.
>>
>> In the following, what key should be chosen (instead of D major) in the
>> fourth score for a soon-to-be-created Trumpet in A#?
>>
>
> For the Trumpet in Bb, the piano's C becomes a written D. The interval
> between C and the note in the instrument's name (Bb) is a major second, as
> is the interval between the C and the D.
>
> The same thing happens with the horn; C to Eb is a minor third, and so is
> C to A.
>
> So theoretically in order to write for the trumpet in A# (a diminished
> third away from C), I think you'd have to use the key of Ebb major (which
> doesn't exist) as this is a diminished third away from C in the opposite
> direction.
>
> Hope that helps!
> Greg
>
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The transposing interval of an instrument is not a harmonic context.
It is not like you are hearing a C against a Bb/A#, and need to determine
if the interval is a 2nd or a diminished 3rd.
Rather, you are hearing a C against a C, and the rest is mental gymnastics.
David Elaine Alt
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highly underrated*"
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Aug 31, 2017 at 09:50:05PM +0200, Menu Jacques wrote:<br> <br>
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solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hello folks,<br>
<br>
I'm trying to understand how \transposition works with enharmony.<br>
<br>
In the following, what key should be chosen (instead of D major) in the fourth score \
for a soon-to-be-created Trumpet in A#?<br> </blockquote>
<br>
For the Trumpet in Bb, the piano's C becomes a written D. The interval
between C and the note in the instrument's name (Bb) is a major second,
as is the interval between the C and the D.<br>
<br>
The same thing happens with the horn; C to Eb is a minor third, and so is C to A.<br>
<br>
So theoretically in order to write for the trumpet in A# (a diminished
third away from C), I think you'd have to use the key of Ebb major
(which doesn't exist) as this is a diminished third away from C in the
opposite direction.<br>
<br>
Hope that helps!<br>
Greg<br>
<br>
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Twitter: @gregrs_uk<br>
PGP key ID: 64907C8A<br>
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7C8A<br></blockquote><div><br><br></div><div>The transposing interval of an \
instrument is not a harmonic context.<br><br>It is not like you are hearing a C \
against a Bb/A#, and need to determine if the interval is a 2nd or a diminished \
3rd.<br><br>Rather, you are hearing a C against a C, and the rest is mental \
gymnastics.</div><div><font size="2" color="black" face="arial"><br><br>
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target="_blank">self-immolation.info</a><br>
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