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Subject:    Re: Questions - Modern Chant Notation
From:       "Trevor Daniels" <t.daniels () treda ! co ! uk>
Date:       2015-10-29 23:39:00
Message-ID: assp.1744aeddad.59B46147223E44879C54273C6E691C05 () TrevorLaptop
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Hi Karen

Disabling timing means LP has no notion of where barlines occur, so you do need to \
indicate these with \bar "".  These then are places where line breaks are permitted.  \
But you might find it better to force line breaks where you want them by adding \
\break as well.

Add 
    ragged-last = ##f 
to the \layout block to force the last line to spread out fully.

As a general point it is usually best not to squash so much on a line that the \
syllable lengths start to control the spacing.  I'd set this on four lines with   \
\bar "" \break  inserted after the notes corresponding to the last syllables of 
    "dul -- cé -- do", 
    "He -- væ." and 
    "cle -- mens."

Trevor

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Karen Billings 
  To: Lilypond-user Mailinglist 
  Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2015 7:38 PM
  Subject: Questions - Modern Chant Notation


  Hi All,


  I've be working on converting a Gregorian chant from 4-line notation to 5-line \
modern notation for service use, and I've stumbled across two problems:


  1.  Lilypond does not seem to be able to determine line length any more (line 2 of \
pdf).  I have to insert a \bar "" to keep it from running off the page (line 1 of \
pdf)


  2.  Lilypond seems to want to cram the last line in as tight as possible (line 3 of \
pdf) - is there any way to either get a full line - or at least get a bit more space \
so my poor cantor can sing it?


  Thanks much!



  Karen


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<DIV><FONT face=Courier>Hi Karen</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">Disabling timing means LP has no notion of where 
barlines occur, so you do need to indicate these with \bar "".&nbsp; These then 
are places where line breaks are permitted.&nbsp; But you might find it better 
to force line breaks where you want them&nbsp;by adding&nbsp;\break as 
well.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">Add&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; ragged-last = ##f </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">to the \layout block to force the last line to 
spread out fully.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">As a general point it is usually best not to 
squash&nbsp;so much on a line that the&nbsp;syllable lengths start to control 
the spacing.&nbsp; I'd set this on four lines with </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; \bar "" \break </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">inserted after the notes&nbsp;corresponding 
to&nbsp;the last syllables of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "dul -- cé -- do", 
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "He -- væ." and </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; "cle -- mens."<BR></DIV></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"><FONT face=Courier>Trevor</FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New"></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE 
style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; \
MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original \
Message ----- </DIV>  <DIV 
  style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=ksbillings@att.net href="mailto:ksbillings@att.net">Karen 
  Billings</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=lilypond-user@gnu.org 
  href="mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org">Lilypond-user Mailinglist</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, October 29, 2015 7:38 
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Questions - Modern Chant 
  Notation</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: #fff; FONT-FAMILY: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, \
Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; COLOR: #000; FONT-SIZE: 16px">  <DIV \
id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904>Hi All,</DIV>  <DIV \
id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904><BR></DIV>  <DIV dir=ltr \
id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904>I've be working on converting   a Gregorian chant \
from 4-line notation to 5-line modern notation for service   use, and I've stumbled \
across two problems:</DIV>  <DIV dir=ltr \
id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904><BR></DIV>  <DIV dir=ltr \
id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904>1. &nbsp;Lilypond does not   seem to be able to \
determine line length any more (line 2 of pdf). &nbsp;I   have to insert a \bar "" to \
keep it from running off the page (line 1 of   pdf)</DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904>2. &nbsp;Lilypond seems to 
  want to cram the last line in as tight as possible (line 3 of pdf) - is there 
  any way to either get a full line - or at least get a bit more space so my 
  poor cantor can sing it?</DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904><BR 
  id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_74863></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904>Thanks much!<BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904><BR></DIV>
  <DIV dir=ltr id=yui_3_16_0_1_1446009571735_73904>Karen</DIV></DIV>
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