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Subject:    RE: inputting with explicit voices
From:       "Mark Stephen Mrotek" <carsonmark () ca ! rr ! com>
Date:       2014-10-31 21:56:08
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Abraham,

 

Thank you!

 

Mark

 

From: lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org \
                [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org] On Behalf \
                Of tisimst
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2014 12:24 PM
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: inputting with explicit voices

 

Mark,

 

If I understand you correctly, this is because of a single \relative a the beginning \
of the polyphony. Yes? Like,

 

\relative c' {

  << 

    \new Voice { \voiceOne ... }

    \new Voice { \voiceTwo ... }

  >>

}

 

Then, yes, whatever pitch is used last in the \voiceOne section will determine the \
relative starting point of the first pitch in the \voiceTwo section. One workaround \
that I have used is to do something like this:

 

\relative c' {

  << 

    \new Voice { \voiceOne ... }

    \new Voice \relative c' { \voiceTwo ... }

  >>

}

 

Or something like that. That way, the \voiceTwo section will always start relative to \
c' instead.

 

HTH,

Abraham

 


On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek [via Lilypond] <[hidden email]> \
wrote:



Hello!

 

When inputting code for polyphony, e.g. a fugue, using  explicit voices (<< \new \
voice { voiceOne … } \new voice { voiceTwo } >> ), the first note of voiceTwo is \
placed, octave wise, in relation to the last note set in voiceOne. As the last note \
entered in voiceOne changes octave, all of voiceTwo moves up or down. The only way I \
could find to avoid this was to set all of voiceOne and then set voiceTwo.

 

Does an alternative exist?

 

Thank you for your kind attention.

 

Mark


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class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span \
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lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org \
[mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=ca.rr.com@gnu.org] <b>On Behalf Of \
</b>tisimst<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 31, 2014 12:24 PM<br><b>To:</b> \
lilypond-user@gnu.org<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: inputting with explicit \
voices<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p \
class=MsoNormal>Mark,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If I understand \
you correctly, this is because of a single \relative a the beginning of the \
polyphony. Yes? Like,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>\relative c' \
{<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; \
&lt;&lt;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; \new Voice { \
\voiceOne ... }<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; \new Voice \
{ \voiceTwo ... }<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; \
&gt;&gt;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>}<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Then, yes, \
whatever pitch is used last in the \voiceOne section will determine the relative \
starting point of the first pitch in the \voiceTwo section. One workaround that I \
have used is to do something like this:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>\relative c' \
{<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; \
&lt;&lt;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; \new Voice { \
\voiceOne ... }<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>&nbsp; &nbsp; \new \
Voice<b> \relative c'</b> { \voiceTwo ... }<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
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class=MsoNormal>}<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Or something like \
that. That way, the \voiceTwo section will always start relative to c' \
instead.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>HTH,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal>Abraham<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p \
class=MsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>On Fri, Oct \
31, 2014 at 12:20 PM, Mark Stephen Mrotek [via Lilypond] &lt;<a \
href="/user/SendEmail.jtp?type=node&amp;node=168147&amp;i=0" target="_top">[hidden \
email]</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal \
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class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>When \
inputting code for polyphony, e.g. a fugue, using &nbsp;explicit voices (&lt;&lt; \
\new voice { voiceOne … } \new voice { voiceTwo } &gt;&gt; ), the first note of \
voiceTwo is placed, octave wise, in relation to the last note set in voiceOne. As the \
last note entered in voiceOne changes octave, all of voiceTwo moves up or down. The \
only way I could find to avoid this was to set all of voiceOne and then set \
voiceTwo.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal \
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class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Does an \
alternative exist?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal \
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class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Thank you \
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