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List:       lilypond-user
Subject:    Re: One staff, two voices
From:       Wim van Dommelen <mail () wimvd ! nl>
Date:       2012-10-28 10:21:27
Message-ID: 55514A68-8A10-4188-9B59-97DAE29C4C54 () wimvd ! nl
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Hi Janrek,

Thanks for pointing to the Tiny Examples section. Didn't know this  
existed, good idea. In programming it is a common method to squeeze  
your problem to something as small as possible. Also a good start for  
any regression test.

But the top part of the example shown uses an include-file. That is  
not "tiny", anything can happen there. So I would add to the rules for  
a tiny example no use of include files.

And the page tells about an example? What example you want:
- what this example of a problem produces (everyone can grab the code  
and see for himself, but showing it right away is much, much faster  
for everyone)
- what the author wants to happen (likes something not accomplished  
but desired)
- or both (my preference)

And how does one place an example there? (and remove when not valid  
anymore, for example if your tiny tie-problem -- which is ugly indeed!  
-- is solved in a next version, this example may be updated with the  
text "Solved" and removed in the next run.)

Regards,
Wim.

P.S. My tiny example:


Wanted attached in a small example (not realized), code I think should  
produce it:

\version "2.16.0"

{
	\key f \major
	\time 4/4
	\slashedGrace {
		\stemDown
		d'32[ c']
	}
	\stemUp
	f32[c' f' g' a' g' f' c']
}



On 28 Oct 2012, at 08:19 , Janek Warchoł wrote:

> On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Daniel Rosen <drosen27@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> [...]
>> This is the first time I've answered a question on the list
>
> That's great!  I find your answer clear and helpful - hopefully Mark
> will like it, too :)
>
>> but I don't think I'd be out of line by asking you to use tiny  
>> examples in the future.
>
> +1 (I agree)
> see also http://www.lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html
>
> cheers,
> Janek
>
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<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; \
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi Janrek,<div><br></div><div>Thanks for \
pointing to the Tiny Examples section. Didn't know this existed, good idea. In \
programming it is a common method to squeeze your problem to something as small as \
possible. Also a good start for any regression test.</div><div><br></div><div>But the \
top part of the example shown uses an include-file. That is not "tiny", anything can \
happen there. So I would add to the rules for a tiny example no use of include \
files.</div><div><br></div><div>And the page tells about an example? What example you \
want:</div><div>- what this example of a problem produces (everyone can grab the code \
and see for himself, but showing it right away is much, much faster for \
everyone)</div><div>- what the author wants to happen (likes something not \
accomplished but desired)</div><div>- or both (my \
preference)</div><div><br></div><div>And how does one place an example \
there?&nbsp;(and remove when not valid anymore, for example if your tiny tie-problem \
-- which is ugly indeed! -- is solved in a next version, this example may be updated \
with the text "Solved" and removed in the next \
run.)</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Wim.</div><div><br></div><div>P.S. \
My tiny example:</div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; \
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal \
Helvetica; "><img alt="unknown.png" height="300" width="274" \
src="cid:AE949D11-5BA7-4546-90C0-299BE5447BF4"></div></div><div style="margin-top: \
0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal \
normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: \
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal \
Helvetica; ">Wanted attached in a small example (not realized), code I think should \
produce it:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; \
margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div \
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; \
font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; \
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal \
12px/normal Helvetica; ">\version "2.16.0"</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; \
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal \
12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; \
margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal \
Helvetica; ">{</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: \
0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span \
class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre">	</span>\key f \major</div><div \
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; \
font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" \
style="white-space:pre">	</span>\time 4/4</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; \
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal \
12px/normal Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" \
style="white-space:pre">	</span>\slashedGrace {</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; \
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal \
12px/normal Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" \
style="white-space:pre">		</span>\stemDown</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; \
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal \
12px/normal Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" \
style="white-space:pre">		</span>d'32[ c']</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; \
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal \
12px/normal Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" \
style="white-space:pre">	</span>}</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: \
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal \
Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" \
style="white-space:pre">	</span>\stemUp</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; \
margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal \
12px/normal Helvetica; "><span class="Apple-tab-span" \
style="white-space:pre">	</span>f32[c' f' g' a' g' f' c']</div><div \
style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; \
font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; \
">}</div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br><div><div>On 28 Oct 2012, at \
08:19 , Janek Warchoł wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote \
type="cite"><div>On Sun, Oct 28, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Daniel Rosen &lt;<a \
href="mailto:drosen27@gmail.com">drosen27@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote \
type="cite">[...]<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">This is the first time I've \
answered a question on the list<br></blockquote><br>That's great! &nbsp;I find your \
answer clear and helpful - hopefully Mark<br>will like it, too :)<br><br><blockquote \
type="cite">but I don't think I'd be out of line by asking you to use tiny examples \
in the future.<br></blockquote><br>+1 (I agree)<br>see also <a \
href="http://www.lilypond.org/tiny-examples.html">http://www.lilypond.org/tiny-example \
s.html</a><br><br>cheers,<br>Janek<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>lilypond-user \
mailing list<br><a href="mailto:lilypond-user@gnu.org">lilypond-user@gnu.org</a><br>ht \
tps://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/lilypond-user<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>



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