[prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread]
List: lilypond-user
Subject: Re: Organ pedal marks and substitution
From: Reilly <reilly () together ! net>
Date: 2007-12-28 14:37:17
Message-ID: 10019bfe6891f6837916dd2925d1dc2c () together ! net
[Download RAW message or body]
Stig,
On Dec 26, 2007, at 9:07 AM, lilypond-user-request@gnu.org wrote:
> Does anyone have a suggestion as how to show substitution of feet in an
> organ pedal voice? It could be when shifting from right toe to right
> heel on
> the same note, or it could be substituting the left toe with the right
> toe,
> still on the same note.
I am not sure whether your question is
(a) what is the proper notation for substitution on the pedalboard? or
(b) how do I code Lilypond?
Nomenclature (general practice):
^ = toe, above note = right, below note = left
u or o (little "oh") = heel, above note = right, below note = left
Note 1: I prefer the notation which places all pedal marks above the
staff refer to the right foot (above = right); all marks below the
staff refer to the left foot (below = left).
Note 2: there is variation in published music. Sometime v is used for
toe instead of ^; likewise, o, u, or "n" (an inverted u) is used for
heel. (Sorry, I am not sure how to insert the correct symbols into an
email, so I am using the letters u (you), v (vee) and n (en) as
substitutes.
Note 3: I disagree with the notation illustrated in the 2.10 Lilypond
manual where "right" and "left" are indicated by the orientation of the
pedal marks. Here is a reference:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/
Articulations#Articulations
Note 4: My organ notation reference is "A practical guide to playing
the organ" by Anne Marsden Thomas published by Cramer Music, Englanad.
This is an excellent book.
Notation Solutions:
If (a), there are two kinds of substitution:
(a1) toe to heel or heel to toe on the SAME foot
write "^/u" or "u/^" using the proper lilypond code
That is: use a slash to indicate the substitution (slash =
substitution). If you accept the pedal notation listed in the Lilypond
manual (where "orientation of the symbol indicates the foot", this
approach will cover all substitutions.
(a2) toe to toe (heel, etc) on DIFFERENT feet
Conceptually the notation for foot substitution is straight forward.
Place the starting notation, say ^, above the note. Place the ending
notation, say ^, below the staff and displaced to the right. Connect
the two pedal marks with a diagonal line (sort of like a gliss line)
through the staff from the upper pedal mark to the lower pedal mark.
Here is vaguely what the result should look like:
^
______\__________
_______\_________
________\________
_________\_______
__________\______
^
I've never coded anything like this in lilypond, so someone else will
have to suggest the correct code for the diagonal line.
All organ notation from Thomas: Practical Guide: sections 7.6, 7.9.3.1
and 7.9.3.2.
Hope this helps.
Jeremiah
ps: to Lilypond Users group: My apologies for posting message twice.
I'm still working out proper protocol for threading replies.
Stig,
On Dec 26, 2007, at 9:07 AM, lilypond-user-request@gnu.org wrote:
<excerpt>Does anyone have a suggestion as how to show substitution of
feet in an
organ pedal voice? It could be when shifting from right toe to right
heel on
the same note, or it could be substituting the left toe with the right
toe,
still on the same note.
</excerpt>
I am not sure whether your question is
(a) what is the proper notation for substitution on the pedalboard? or
(b) how do I code Lilypond?
Nomenclature (general practice):
^ = toe, above note = right, below note = left
u or o (little "oh") = heel, above note = right, below note = left
Note 1: I prefer the notation which places all pedal marks above the
staff refer to the right foot (above = right); all marks below the
staff refer to the left foot (below = left).
Note 2: there is variation in published music. Sometime v is used for
toe instead of ^; likewise, o, u, or "n" (an inverted u) is used for
heel. (Sorry, I am not sure how to insert the correct symbols into an
email, so I am using the letters u (you), v (vee) and n (en) as
substitutes.
Note 3: I disagree with the notation illustrated in the 2.10 Lilypond
manual where "right" and "left" are indicated by the
<bold>orientation</bold> of the pedal marks. Here is a reference:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.10/Documentation/user/lilypond/Articulations#Articulations
Note 4: My organ notation reference is "A practical guide to playing
the organ" by Anne Marsden Thomas published by Cramer Music, Englanad.
This is an excellent book.
Notation Solutions:
If (a), there are two kinds of substitution:
(a1) toe to heel or heel to toe on the SAME foot
write "^/u" or "u/^" using the proper lilypond code
That is: use a slash to indicate the substitution (slash =
substitution). If you accept the pedal notation listed in the Lilypond
manual (where "orientation of the symbol indicates the foot", this
approach will cover all substitutions.
(a2) toe to toe (heel, etc) on DIFFERENT feet
Conceptually the notation for foot substitution is straight forward.
Place the starting notation, say ^, above the note. Place the ending
notation, say ^, below the staff and displaced to the right. Connect
the two pedal marks with a diagonal line (sort of like a gliss line)
through the staff from the upper pedal mark to the lower pedal mark.
Here is vaguely what the result should look like:
^
______\__________
_______\_________
________\________
_________\_______
__________\______
^
I've never coded anything like this in lilypond, so someone else will
have to suggest the correct code for the diagonal line.
All organ notation from Thomas: Practical Guide: sections 7.6, 7.9.3.1
and 7.9.3.2.
Hope this helps.
Jeremiah
ps: to Lilypond Users group: My apologies for posting message twice.
I'm still working out proper protocol for threading replies.
[prev in list] [next in list] [prev in thread] [next in thread]
Configure |
About |
News |
Add a list |
Sponsored by KoreLogic