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Subject: Re: Meeting 2nd half of August! (was: GOP2: 0 - why are we losing developers? (discuss responses))
From: "mike () apollinemike ! com" <mike () apollinemike ! com>
Date: 2012-06-29 6:05:32
Message-ID: 246E71E0-E250-43CF-9B9E-42C850C23DAE () apollinemike ! com
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On 26 juin 2012, at 18:26, David Kastrup wrote:
> Graham Percival <graham@percival-music.ca> writes:
>
> > Mailing list arguments are a trickier issue. It’s clearly a big
> > problem, but this isn’t something we can fix by waving a change of
> > policy. I’ll schedule a time to discuss it. We need to do
> > something about this, although at the moment I have no immediate
> > suggestions.
>
> I have one. It may sound absurd, but then I have learnt "once you ruled
> out the impossible whatever remains however improbable might be
> effective", and there are a few things that somehow or other appear to
> be hard, particularly for me. Decent communication in electronic media
> is one of the things I am spectacularly bad at. One thing that has
> turned out to be effective at times is meeting people in person.
>
> While I won't be as audacious to state that this is a cure-all, it lends
> more depth to your communication partners than the rather anonymous
> style of communicating through electronic letters does, and has a
> lasting effect. It has been more effective in deflating tensions
> permanently than other measures I can think of. It is, in a way,
> pitiful that this should work, but then it still would be more of a pity
> not to make use of that.
>
> I am living in a sort-of commune in a rural region, in a house next to
> the stables of a riding school (my girl friend makes a somewhat
> unimpressive living from that). I seem to remember that Werner was away
> until the middle of August, and the school holidays last until August
> 21st. There is no real need to synchronize to the school holidays since
> our activities are more or less independent from that of the school. We
> could, however, target Friday August 17th to Tuesday August 21st (or, if
> it is more convenient for people, one week later) for a meeting for
> programming, composing and talking. It is not like there is a shortage
> of programming projects one could tackle together. Guilev2 migration
> anybody?
>
> We could do a few workshops, like "working on the parser", "fiddling
> with the backend", "introduction to GOOPS", "becoming friends with the
> garbage collector", "scything stinging nettles", "shoveling heaps of
> crap" (this can be even practiced without a computer). Accommodation
> can be arranged for a number of people.
>
> If the basic mailing list relations of at least some core of developers
> have become more relaxed, it helps for cooperating in creating a more
> welcoming atmosphere. One can better compensate for other people's
> fault. I am, of course, a natural contender for organizing such a
> meeting since few people would likely deny that my own ways of
> interacting with others on our lists could benefit a lot from
> improvement.
>
> So the core data would be "Dortmund Germany" (about 10 miles from there)
> and the proposal for a date would Friday August 17th to Tuesday August
> 21st, or one week later.
>
> Yes, it sounds silly as a means to address the GOP question. But once I
> have ruled out all mature and sane ways of addressing a problem, I have
> not rarely have had some success trying the silly ones.
>
> Are you with me?
>
> --
> David Kastrup
>
>
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Hey all,
Sorry for the long delay. The second batch of dates in August are doable for me \
(Friday the 24th to Tuesday the 28th). Keep me posted!
~Mike
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