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Subject:    [Libreoffice-ux-advise] Remove outdated Gallery images
From:       mazelm () gmail ! com (Mirek M ! )
Date:       2013-08-03 15:59:12
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Hi Samuel,

On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> thanks for your comments. I'll remove the options to link gallery images
> and also try to build an extension.
> 
> I think I'll then leave the bullets there until they are replaced by some
> up-to-date ones.
> 
> For the "Add" button in the bullets and numbering dialog, we could make an
> easy hack out of that. But the question then is, are these images stored
> globally or only for the current document?
> 

Ideally, there should be a "LibreOffice Bullets" section with the
globally-stored bullets and a "Document Bullets" section below with all the
bullets present in the document except those shipped by default.
Instead of an "Add" button, it should be a "Custom graphic..." button,
which would add the bullet to the "Document Bullets" section.

> 
> Samuel
> 
> Am 26.07.2013 13:42, schrieb Mirek M.:
> 
> Hi Samuel,
> 
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I created a patch that removes the outdated Gallery images:
> > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4993
> > Now there were some objections because of breaking old documents (when
> > people have linked content from the gallery into their documents).
> > 
> 
> Could you remove the GUI for linking Gallery images? (I notice that the
> choice is presented via a right-click menu and in the "Bullets and
> Numbering" dialog, but perhaps there are other choices?)
> Documents should never rely on stuff shipped with LibreOffice. If they do,
> the user will sooner or later be stuck on an outdated version of
> LibreOffice.
> 
> Also I removed the bullets which are used in the "Bullets and Numbering"
> > dialog.
> > 
> 
> > You can some opinions on the thread on the Dev list here:
> > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Comment-on-patch-quot-Remove-old-outdated-gallery-images-and-sounds-quot-td4066477.html
> >  
> > Now the questions are:
> > - Is it ok to break old documents by removing these images from the
> > galleries?
> > 
> 
> Yes, but it might be good to provide an option to get the graphics via
> an extension. Would that be possible?
> 
> - Do we also want to remove the sounds?
> > 
> 
> I would say yes, but again, would be good to have an extension to bring
> them back for those who unwisely linked them.
> 
> 
> > - Do we also want to remove the whole "Graphical bullets" feature?
> > 
> 
> No. I can imagine graphical bullets being useful [1], but it'd be good
> to have a GUI for importing them. A simple "Add..." button in the Graphic
> bullets section in LibreOffice would suffice.
> 
> > 
> > Please share your thoughts.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Samuel
> > 
> 
> [1] Here's someone asking how to import their own bullets:
> http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2280
> 
> 
> 


On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 1:38 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> thanks for your comments. I'll remove the options to link gallery images
> and also try to build an extension.
> 
> I think I'll then leave the bullets there until they are replaced by some
> up-to-date ones.
> 
> For the "Add" button in the bullets and numbering dialog, we could make an
> easy hack out of that. But the question then is, are these images stored
> globally or only for the current document?
> 
> Samuel
> 
> Am 26.07.2013 13:42, schrieb Mirek M.:
> 
> Hi Samuel,
> 
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Samuel Mehrbrodt <s.mehrbrodt at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I created a patch that removes the outdated Gallery images:
> > https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/4993
> > Now there were some objections because of breaking old documents (when
> > people have linked content from the gallery into their documents).
> > 
> 
> Could you remove the GUI for linking Gallery images? (I notice that the
> choice is presented via a right-click menu and in the "Bullets and
> Numbering" dialog, but perhaps there are other choices?)
> Documents should never rely on stuff shipped with LibreOffice. If they do,
> the user will sooner or later be stuck on an outdated version of
> LibreOffice.
> 
> Also I removed the bullets which are used in the "Bullets and Numbering"
> > dialog.
> > 
> 
> > You can some opinions on the thread on the Dev list here:
> > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Comment-on-patch-quot-Remove-old-outdated-gallery-images-and-sounds-quot-td4066477.html
> >  
> > Now the questions are:
> > - Is it ok to break old documents by removing these images from the
> > galleries?
> > 
> 
> Yes, but it might be good to provide an option to get the graphics via
> an extension. Would that be possible?
> 
> - Do we also want to remove the sounds?
> > 
> 
> I would say yes, but again, would be good to have an extension to bring
> them back for those who unwisely linked them.
> 
> 
> > - Do we also want to remove the whole "Graphical bullets" feature?
> > 
> 
> No. I can imagine graphical bullets being useful [1], but it'd be good
> to have a GUI for importing them. A simple "Add..." button in the Graphic
> bullets section in LibreOffice would suffice.
> 
> > 
> > Please share your thoughts.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Samuel
> > 
> 
> [1] Here's someone asking how to import their own bullets:
> http://en.libreofficeforum.org/node/2280
> 
> 
> 
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