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Subject: Re: More Shapes for LibreOffice (Easyhack)
From: Muhammad Ahsan Faheem <ahsanfaheem1234 () gmail ! com>
Date: 2018-03-27 14:00:06
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Thanks a lot respected Katrina Behrens. I was really disappointed by the
people who said 'You should be a qualified developer'. I was very motivated
to work with GSoC and tried my best to understand code. I just wanted
someone to tell where to begin with. Few people have tried there best to
demotivate me.
Thanks again for encouraging me.
Regards.
On 27-Mar-2018 6:42 PM, "Katarina Behrens" <katarina.behrens@cib.de> wrote:
> > As a GSoC
> > student you are expected to be a smart developer, able to dig into the
> > code, and to find code pointers yourself. That might be time-consuming
> and
> > one question makes sense, perhaps someone knows the answer off the top of
> > the head. But that happens not too often.
>
> Stating perhaps the obvious, the word "student" is derived from the verb
> "to
> study" ( = "to learn") i.e. it is someone who is learning things, not
> someone
> who is expected to know them already. Fortunately, most of GSoC mentors are
> aware of that.
>
> Moreover, "smart developer" is usually someone with multiple years of
> coding
> experience (and sometimes even that ain't enough *smirk*). In my particular
> case, this is some 12+ years of experience and I still need to ask other
> people for code pointers sometimes. Nobody expects me to always find them
> myself, quite the contrary.
>
> Asking for help (in contrast to banging my head against the wall ad nauseam
> 'cause I don't understand the code) is somehow smarter use of resources I
> have. Again, most of GSoC mentors know this and encourage students to reach
> out when they're stuck.
>
> > Last but not least I'm neither a
> > developer nor your mentor. And while I really appreciate any work on bug
> > 87892, solving a design only easyhack is not a proof of your coding
> skills
> > to me.
>
> IIRC, adding new shapes AND new categories to gallery in tdf#87892 requires
> some non-trivial knowledge of build system and it is neither "design-only"
> nor
> "easy hack" ... oh wait, you already mentioned you were not a developer ;-)
>
> --
> Katarina Behrens
>
> Senior Software-Entwicklerin FLOSS
> –––
> CIB software GmbH
> Geschäftsstelle Hamburg
> Flachsland 10
> 22083 Hamburg
> –––
> T +49 (40) / 28 48 42 -235
> F +49 (40) / 28 48 42 -100
>
> Katarina.Behrens@cib.de
> www.cib.de
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>
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<p dir="ltr">Thanks a lot respected Katrina Behrens. I was really disappointed by the \
people who said 'You should be a qualified developer'. I was very motivated \
to work with GSoC and tried my best to understand code. I just wanted someone to tell \
where to begin with. Few people have tried there best to demotivate me.</p> <p \
dir="ltr">Thanks again for encouraging me.<br> Regards.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 27-Mar-2018 6:42 PM, "Katarina Behrens" <<a \
href="mailto:katarina.behrens@cib.de">katarina.behrens@cib.de</a>> wrote:<br \
type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 \
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">> As a GSoC<br> > student you \
are expected to be a smart developer, able to dig into the<br> > code, and to find \
code pointers yourself. That might be time-consuming and<br> > one question makes \
sense, perhaps someone knows the answer off the top of<br> > the head. But that \
happens not too often.<br> <br>
Stating perhaps the obvious, the word "student" is derived from the verb \
"to<br> study" ( = "to learn") i.e. it is someone who is learning \
things, not someone<br> who is expected to know them already. Fortunately, most of \
GSoC mentors are<br> aware of that.<br>
<br>
Moreover, "smart developer" is usually someone with multiple years of \
coding<br> experience (and sometimes even that ain't enough *smirk*). In my \
particular<br> case, this is some 12+ years of experience and I still need to ask \
other<br> people for code pointers sometimes. Nobody expects me to always find \
them<br> myself, quite the contrary.<br>
<br>
Asking for help (in contrast to banging my head against the wall ad nauseam<br>
'cause I don't understand the code) is somehow smarter use of resources I<br>
have. Again, most of GSoC mentors know this and encourage students to reach<br>
out when they're stuck.<br>
<br>
> Last but not least I'm neither a<br>
> developer nor your mentor. And while I really appreciate any work on bug<br>
> 87892, solving a design only easyhack is not a proof of your coding skills<br>
> to me.<br>
<br>
IIRC, adding new shapes AND new categories to gallery in tdf#87892 requires<br>
some non-trivial knowledge of build system and it is neither "design-only" \
nor<br> "easy hack" ... oh wait, you already mentioned you were not a \
developer ;-)<br> <br>
--<br>
Katarina Behrens<br>
<br>
Senior Software-Entwicklerin FLOSS<br>
–––<br>
CIB software GmbH<br>
Geschäftsstelle Hamburg<br>
Flachsland 10<br>
22083 Hamburg<br>
–––<br>
T <a href="tel:%2B49%20%2840%29%20%2F%2028%2048%2042%20-235" \
value="+4940284842235">+49 (40) / 28 48 42 -235</a><br> F <a \
href="tel:%2B49%20%2840%29%20%2F%2028%2048%2042%20-100" value="+4940284842100">+49 \
(40) / 28 48 42 -100</a><br> <br>
<a href="mailto:Katarina.Behrens@cib.de">Katarina.Behrens@cib.de</a><br>
<a href="http://www.cib.de" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">www.cib.de</a><br>
–––<br>
Sitz: München<br>
Registergericht München, HRB 123286<br>
Geschäftsführer: Dipl.-Ing. Ulrich Brandner<br>
<br>
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