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Subject:    [leaf-user] Re: Some questions about leaf PPPoE
From:       "PAGE,RAYMOND" <pagerc () ufl ! edu>
Date:       2003-06-29 2:02:14
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Eric and LEAF list(original correspondence was with Eric),

Eric, thanks for being so polite and all.  Let me give you some 
more information on my setup.  The Bering Firewall I'm trying to 
setup is going to be connected between my lan and dsl modem.  I'm 
currently running a WinXP box there with Internet Connection 
Sharing(ICS).  I'm hoping that I can replace windows with linux 
completely.  I have an external ethernet dsl modem that has an 
auto-detecting dhcp server and dns.  I set them to auto so that 
they can figure out whether or not they need to work (if you think 
it wise, I can disable them).  Just so you know, I'm a newbie to 
linux, but I'm a computer engineer, so don't worry about talking 
over my head.

What I do know....my setup:

INTERNAL SYSTEMS<==>LAN<==>FIREWALL/BERING<==>DSL 
MODEM<==>INTERNET

eth0 is definitely connected to the modem, and ?trying? to talk to 
the modem.  The modem has an IP of 192.168.7.1.  The internal nic, 
eth1, is able to connect to internal boxes.  It's ip is 
192.168.0.1.  I know it works because I can ssh to that IP from an 
internal machine.  I don't believe that udhcpd(as opposed to the 
standard daemon because it's so much larger in size) is working 
properly for me, however I've statically assigned other boxes 
temporarily so it doesn't have to work right now and that 
shouldn't affect getting this to work.

I'm attaching the output you requested, along with my 
syslinux.cfg, because I'm not sure if udhcpd should be called 
before or after pump and ppp/pppoe.

Other questions I'm having with my Bering-uClibc firewall disk:

syslinux.cfg exert:
"LRP=root,etc,local,modules,iptables,udhcpd,pump,ppp,pppoe,ezipupd,lshd,shorwall,daemontl,ulogd,dnscache,weblet"
 1) In syslinux.cfg, should udhcpd come after pump and ppp?

2) Does my setup require pump, and if not, how might I go away 
getting rid of it.  I tried just not loading it, but then my nic's 
didn't get detected properly or something.

3) I have a user account, and when I attempt "su -" I receive a 
"su: no valid shadow password" response.  Is this a problem with 
the root or user password I'm using?  Does anyone have a good idea 
of how to fix that?


I appreciate anybody's comments on my problems.

--
PAGE,RAYMOND

On Fri Jun 27 10:06:20 EDT 2003, eric wolzak <leaf@wolzak.de> 
wrote:

> Hello Raymond
> 
> > Well, to make this not totally pointless, some of the sections 
> > for
> > configuring stuff don't match up with the latest Bering uClibc
> > floppy image default packages.  I think the PPPoE and Shorewall
> > had 1 or 2 differences in labels.  Not really hard to figure out,
> > considering you put the section name *and* number, but thought 
> > you
> > might like to know.
> Thanks, this happened with shorewall., as the newest version had 
> some more
> options,
> The number of selection for the /etc/modules files depends on how 
> much and
> in which order it is loaded.
> 
> 1, Your question about the mailing list:
> there is a mailnig list for support
> leaf-user@lists.sourceforge.net
> but before posting your question there please read how to ask for 
> help:
> http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=1891&group_id=13751
> 
> 2. I will try to help you figure out why you cannot connect.
> please check the following
> modules and ethernet cards correctly identified
> #ip link show
> this should show you a eth0 and a eth1.
> 
> 3. You can ping from your internal network to the router ( no 
> switch of the
> cables ) ? eth0 is in reality eth1 and vv.
> 
> ip link show eth0
> should show you eth0 but not in the upstatus.
> 
> 4. you didn't change the configuration and used the modem with 
> this computer
> before ?
> The reason I ask is that dependant of the model of your dsl-modem 
> you have
> to use straight or crossover cables.
> If you change the setup from computer -->Hub --> modem to
> computer -->hub---eth1 Router eth0 ---> modem, you might have to 
> use another
> cable.
> don't ask me for details on the different modems, I don't know
> 
> Now for the software part.
> There are two stages at connecting
> first your router sends a broadcast over ppp0 with a request 
> which Access
> concentrator is available.
> As soon as it receives the offers, it chooses one  LCP
> And then the authentication will start   and finally the same 
> situation as
> with any other ppp exist.
> 
> Logfiles :
> 
> add to the pppoe configuration file the line
> debug  7
> 
> Now you will find lots of lines in the /var/log/debug
> Probably also in /var/log/syslog lines describeing the login 
> procedure.
> Don't forget to remove or comment the line if everything 
> functions. your
> logs will grow rather fast.
> 
> Feel free to mail me , if you did try those things out.
> 
> Regards
> Eric Wolzak
> member of the bering crew
> 
> 
> 
> 


> Well, to make this not totally pointless, some of the sections 
> for configuring >stuff don't match up with the latest Bering 
> uClibc floppy image default >packages. I think the PPPoE and 
> Shorewall had 1 or 2 differences in labels. Not >really hard to 
> figure out, considering you put the section name *and* number, 
> > but thought you might like to know.
> 
> 
> The real reason behind this email...I followed all of the 
> directions, and it >didn't dial up my isp via dsl modem. So, I'm 
> curious if you could point me to a >mailing list that would be 
> appropriate to ask for further assistance with >setting this up 
> (I'm currently reading the HowTo's from the Linux Documentation 
> > Project -- Already read all of the documentation from LEAF).
> 
> If you have time or care, or whatever, since I am bugging 
> you...I've set up >PPPoE on eth0. Well it's ppp0 that translates 
> to eth0. However, it never dials >my ISP, so I don't get assigned 
> an IP for eth0. I can't find any of the logging >for the 
> connection, or where the connection should take place. Perhaps 
> you >could tell me what log files I *should* see the connection 
> being init'd, and >then a log file for the connection taking 
> place. And if you're even super >spiffier, perhaps you know why 
> it seems like the dial up between my eth0 and >my dsl modem 
> doesn't seem to happen. I say this because it has 
> > transmit/recieve lights, and >neither light up.
> 
> Oh well, I've taken more than my fair of your disk space with 
> this email.
> 
> I'd appreciate any answers you can provide me.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> --
> PAGE,RAYMOND



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