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List:       kwrite-devel
Subject:    Re: How can i make kate behaviour go back to normal?
From:       Waqar Ahmed <waqar.17a () gmail ! com>
Date:       2022-12-11 17:18:07
Message-ID: CAPesRH4oYRL3XsQ55pK77v5bejBJCrTH7c61+P7QiphTA9OEdg () mail ! gmail ! com
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, > And with regard to switching views with a Kate-specific keyboard
shortcut, I
switch all the time between different windows (including settings dialogs)
of
the same or different applications with Alt+Tab. How does having to learn
and
use a different keyboard shortcut in Kate improve the UX?

You are mixing things, comparing apples and oranges. Like I suggested
already, go and use it first before assuming it's not good enough. Besides,
I am done here / don't have the energy to argue anymore.

Cheers,
Waqar



On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 8:39 PM Ingo Kl=C3=B6cker <kloecker@kde.org> wrote:

> On Sonntag, 11. Dezember 2022 13:58:15 CET Waqar Ahmed wrote:
> > > It's funny how you argue that a modal dialog is bad
> >
> > What's funny? And where did I say it's bad? You misunderstand things.
>
> You wrote:
> > Why should we block the editor when the dialog is open? Give me one
> reason.
>
> I read this as "a modal dialog is bad", but maybe you meant something els=
e
> with "block the editor when the dialog is open".
>
> > > completely overlay the main view with a settings view .
> >
> > But just for your info: you can open the settings in a split or a new
> > mainWindow
>
> So, instead of opening a separate settings dialog as almost any other KDE
> application the user should now open a separate view themselves? Do you
> realize how ironic this is?
>
> And with regard to switching views with a Kate-specific keyboard shortcut=
,
> I
> switch all the time between different windows (including settings dialogs=
)
> of
> the same or different applications with Alt+Tab. How does having to learn
> and
> use a different keyboard shortcut in Kate improve the UX?
>
> Regards,
> Ingo

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<div dir="auto"><div>, &gt; And with regard to switching views with a Kate-specific \
keyboard shortcut, I</div><div dir="auto">switch all the time between different \
windows (including settings dialogs) of</div><div dir="auto">the same or different \
applications with Alt+Tab. How does having to learn and</div><div dir="auto">use a \
different keyboard shortcut in Kate improve the UX?  </div><div \
dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">You are mixing things, comparing apples and \
oranges. Like I suggested already, go and use it first before assuming it&#39;s not \
good enough. Besides, I am done here / don&#39;t have the energy to argue anymore.  \
</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers,  </div><div \
dir="auto">Waqar</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div \
dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" \
class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 11, 2022, 8:39 PM Ingo Klöcker &lt;<a \
href="mailto:kloecker@kde.org">kloecker@kde.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sonntag, 11. Dezember 2022 13:58:15 CET Waqar Ahmed \
wrote:<br> &gt; &gt; It&#39;s funny how you argue that a modal dialog is bad<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; What&#39;s funny? And where did I say it&#39;s bad? You misunderstand \
things.<br> <br>
You wrote:<br>
&gt; Why should we block the editor when the dialog is open? Give me one reason.<br>
<br>
I read this as &quot;a modal dialog is bad&quot;, but maybe you meant something else \
<br> with &quot;block the editor when the dialog is open&quot;.<br>
<br>
&gt; &gt; completely overlay the main view with a settings view .<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; But just for your info: you can open the settings in a split or a new<br>
&gt; mainWindow<br>
<br>
So, instead of opening a separate settings dialog as almost any other KDE <br>
application the user should now open a separate view themselves? Do you <br>
realize how ironic this is?<br>
<br>
And with regard to switching views with a Kate-specific keyboard shortcut, I <br>
switch all the time between different windows (including settings dialogs) of <br>
the same or different applications with Alt+Tab. How does having to learn and <br>
use a different keyboard shortcut in Kate improve the UX?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
Ingo</blockquote></div></div></div>



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