--0000000000004ce56605e1ba2077 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Yeah, sounds reasonable to me On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 7:51 PM Christoph Cullmann (cullmann.io) < christoph@cullmann.io> wrote: > On 2022-06-18 16:49, Waqar Ahmed wrote: > > The problem with anon sessions that I face currently : > > > > - I want to work on a project Y, I open it > > - Later, I want to open another folder in Kate for a moment in a > > separate instance, I do kate -n XXX. Kate opens with both projects > > loaded. This is not obvious, and one only starts to realize that > > things are not working well till you have a lot of projects opened. > > This affects a lot of features such as quick open, search etc. > > > > So basically, opening a folder temporarily is now an annoyance as it > > is not temporary anymore. One has to remember to close it or kate just > > keeps accumulating them silently. > > > > If this was trivial, it would have been okay, but it's not and it > > breaks the usecase I mentioned above. > > Hi, > > perhaps temporary we should at least make the project remembering > default off? > > Then people who like it can enable it, perhaps we find > some better solution until then? > > Greetings > Christoph > > > > > On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 7:33 PM Christoph Cullmann (cullmann.io [1]) > > wrote: > > > >> On 2022-06-18 14:38, Waqar Ahmed wrote: > >>> This is a result of a recent feature we added, i.e., a project is > >>> saved when you close Kate, and restored when you reopen. > >>> > >>> This is okay if one uses named sessions. Named sessions need to be > >>> opened explicitly. However, for anon sessions, this was a bad idea > >> and > >>> is a constant annoyance. > >>> > >>> It's fixed in a way that we added an option to disable project > >>> restoration(upcoming release). But I think for anon sessions > >> projects > >>> should never be stored in the first place. > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> yes, I added that option to disable it for that reason. > >> > >> Not sure about the anon session, we store there other stuff, too. > >> > >> But it would make sense to try to optimize the behavior, > >> the project loading itself should be async, does the GitWidget > >> trigger the sync git calls? > >> > >> Greetings > >> Christoph > >> > >>> > >>> Waqar > >>> > >>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 5:16 PM Milian Wolff > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hey all, > >>>> > >>>> Kate took ~4s to show its main window on my beefy workstation > >> with > >>>> lots of > >>>> RAM, CPUs and speedy NVME disks. I found this quite odd and > >> wondered > >>>> about the > >>>> reason so I sat down and profiled it. Perf shows a lot of > >> external > >>>> git > >>>> processes running sequentially, which I could also replicate with > >>>> strace: > >>>> > >>>> ``` > >>>> $ strace -o kate.process.log -f --timestamps -e process kate > >>>> $ grep -E "execve.*git" kate.process.log | wc > >>>> 159 > >>>> ``` > >>>> > >>>> See also: https://invent.kde.org/-/snippets/2234 > >>>> > >>>> The reason, it turns out, was that my kate accumulated a lot of > >>>> projects, and > >>>> all of them got queried for their git status. > >>>> > >>>> I hope that you all agree that this isn't acceptable. The > >> question > >>>> now becomes > >>>> how to resolve this: > >>>> > >>>> a) I never knowingly opened a project in kate, this is all done > >>>> automatically > >>>> in the background. Is it expected that I should manually cleanup > >> the > >>>> project > >>>> list then? Or can this be done automatically, e.g. by marking > >>>> projects as > >>>> unused after some time when we don't open a file in them in the > >> last > >>>> week or > >>>> something like that? > >>>> > >>>> b) Can we query the git status in parallel for all projects, > >> instead > >>>> of > >>>> serially? My machine has 12 cores and 24 threads, and the NVME > >> disk > >>>> and ram > >>>> should also allow this. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks > >>>> > >>>> PS: For now, I manually closed all projects and now have a fast > >> kate > >>>> startup > >>>> once again. > >>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Milian Wolff > >>>> mail@milianw.de > >>>> http://milianw.de > >> > >> -- > >> Ignorance is bliss... > >> https://cullmann.io | https://kate-editor.org > > > > > > Links: > > ------ > > [1] http://cullmann.io > > -- > Ignorance is bliss... > https://cullmann.io | https://kate-editor.org > --0000000000004ce56605e1ba2077 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yeah, sounds reasonable to me

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 7:5= 1 PM Christoph Cullmann (cullmann.io) &l= t;christoph@cullmann.io> wr= ote:
On 2022-06-18 16:49, Waqar Ahm= ed wrote:
> The problem with anon sessions that I face currently :
>
> - I want to work on a project Y, I open it
> - Later, I want to open another folder in Kate for a moment in a
> separate instance, I do kate -n XXX. Kate opens with both projects
> loaded. This is not obvious, and one only starts to realize that
> things are not working well till you have a lot of projects opened. > This affects a lot of features such as quick open, search etc.
>
> So basically, opening a folder temporarily is now an annoyance as it > is not temporary anymore. One has to remember to close it or kate just=
> keeps accumulating them silently.
>
> If this was trivial, it would have been okay, but it's not and it<= br> > breaks the usecase I mentioned above.

Hi,

perhaps temporary we should at least make the project remembering
default off?

Then people who like it can enable it, perhaps we find
some better solution until then?

Greetings
Christoph

>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 7:33 PM Christoph Cullmann (cullmann.io = [1])
> <christoph@cullmann.io> wrote:
>
>> On 2022-06-18 14:38, Waqar Ahmed wrote:
>>> This is a result of a recent feature we added, i.e., a project= is
>>> saved when you close Kate, and restored when you reopen.
>>>
>>> This is okay if one uses named sessions. Named sessions need t= o be
>>> opened explicitly. However, for anon sessions, this was a bad = idea
>> and
>>> is a constant annoyance.
>>>
>>> It's fixed in a way that we added an option to disable pro= ject
>>> restoration(upcoming release). But I think for anon sessions >> projects
>>> should never be stored in the first place.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> yes, I added that option to disable it for that reason.
>>
>> Not sure about the anon session, we store there other stuff, too.<= br> >>
>> But it would make sense to try to optimize the behavior,
>> the project loading itself should be async, does the GitWidget
>> trigger the sync git calls?
>>
>> Greetings
>> Christoph
>>
>>>
>>> Waqar
>>>
>>> On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 5:16 PM Milian Wolff <mail@milianw.de>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey all,
>>>>
>>>> Kate took ~4s to show its main window on my beefy workstat= ion
>> with
>>>> lots of
>>>> RAM, CPUs and speedy NVME disks. I found this quite odd an= d
>> wondered
>>>> about the
>>>> reason so I sat down and profiled it. Perf shows a lot of<= br> >> external
>>>> git
>>>> processes running sequentially, which I could also replica= te with
>>>> strace:
>>>>
>>>> ```
>>>> $ strace -o kate.process.log -f --timestamps -e process ka= te
>>>> $ grep -E "execve.*git" kate.process.log=C2=A0 |= wc
>>>> 159
>>>> ```
>>>>
>>>> See also: https://invent.kde.org/-= /snippets/2234
>>>>
>>>> The reason, it turns out, was that my kate accumulated a l= ot of
>>>> projects, and
>>>> all of them got queried for their git status.
>>>>
>>>> I hope that you all agree that this isn't acceptable. = The
>> question
>>>> now becomes
>>>> how to resolve this:
>>>>
>>>> a) I never knowingly opened a project in kate, this is all= done
>>>> automatically
>>>> in the background. Is it expected that I should manually c= leanup
>> the
>>>> project
>>>> list then? Or can this be done automatically, e.g. by mark= ing
>>>> projects as
>>>> unused after some time when we don't open a file in th= em in the
>> last
>>>> week or
>>>> something like that?
>>>>
>>>> b) Can we query the git status in parallel for all project= s,
>> instead
>>>> of
>>>> serially? My machine has 12 cores and 24 threads, and the = NVME
>> disk
>>>> and ram
>>>> should also allow this.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> PS: For now, I manually closed all projects and now have a= fast
>> kate
>>>> startup
>>>> once again.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Milian Wolff
>>>> mail@milianw.de
>>>> http://milianw.de
>>
>> --
>> Ignorance is bliss...
>> https://cullmann.io | https://kate-editor.org
>
>
> Links:
> ------
> [1] http://cullmann.io

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