This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --Vdwgq8s9PetazX08R8GlP748A8CExllUh Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="nNufTRNa1bHIlRZSCJKatIOxEw9oz8wB9"; protected-headers="v1" From: Hannah von Reth To: kwrite-devel@kde.org Message-ID: Subject: New Windows builds --nNufTRNa1bHIlRZSCJKatIOxEw9oz8wB9 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------84F72EAECE9BE3C2E09EAF3C" Content-Language: en-GB This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------84F72EAECE9BE3C2E09EAF3C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi K=C3=A5re, As I wasn't approved to the ml it took me some time to realise there was = an answer... > Hi, > > On onsdag 28 februari 2018 kl. 22:56:00 EET Dr.-Ing. Christoph Cullmann= wrote: > >/Hi, />//>/cool ;=3D) />//>/> Hello everyone />/> />/> KDE Binary Fact= ory is generating stable Kate builds for quite a while />/> now and I thi= nk it would be a good idea to use />/> them as the official Kate installe= r for Windows. />/> />/> The release process would be as follows: />/> />= /> Download the builds build from />/> />/> https://binary-factory.kde.or= g/job/kate-stable-win64/ />/> />/> https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/kat= e-stable-win32/ />/> />/> Do some testing and then upload it to />/> http= s://download.kde.org/stable/kate/ . />/> />/> Kevin wrote some nice blog = posts about Binary Factory > http://kfunk.org/ . / > I just tested the newest installer :) > > I think it is super to be able to just copy an automatically built inst= aller!=20 > > There are a couple of issues with this installer tho that could be impr= oved: > > 1) The installer did not detect the already installed version and even = lets=20 > you install itself multiple times... That's not 100% true, it just doesn't recognize your old installer which used a different registry key. So once updated it automatically uninstalls previous installs on update. > > 2) The installer size is just ~6MB bigger than the current installer, b= ut the=20 > installed size has jumped from 160MB to over 400MB. There are a lot of = > unneeded files installed like share/common-lisp :) but that is also jus= t a=20 > mater of fine-tuning the installer. Sure the installer size could be reduced by a bit. > > Noting tho that 150MB of the new installer is dictionaries that the old= =20 > installer downloaded on demand. I do think that that extra 150MB might = be=20 > worth it as we then do not need to have special dictionary downloads in= the=20 > installer and Internet connection during install. The old installer downloaded a handful of languages while the new provides all dictionaries from libreoffice. Installer size is important for people in areas with a bad internet connectivity, installed size isn't that important nowadays. > > I know tho that it is not so easy to remove installed files, because it= might=20 > not always be so easy to know what feature you might break as the appli= cation=20 > does start, but some feature might be broken and you do not know which = one... > > If we would _add_ diff and kompare to the installation we probably woul= d get=20 > the file modification dialog to work, which it does not at the moment (= also the=20 > current/old installer lacks these)... There is a lot of small things th= at=20 > could be done :) > > >//>/As I am not the Windows guy here, perhaps K=C3=A5re wants to give = his input, />/if he is ok with it, we should link that stuff on the websi= te, too. />//>/Thanks for all the works besides! />//>/(both to Hannah + = Kevin) / > Yeah, thanks for doing the automated installer build! > > Greetings, > K=C3=A5re > > > >//>/Greetings />/Christoph />//>/> Cheers, />/> />/> Hannah / > Cheers, Hannah --------------84F72EAECE9BE3C2E09EAF3C Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Hi K=C3=A5re,

As I wasn't approved to the ml it took me some time to realise there was =
an answer...

Hi,

On onsdag 28 februari 2018 kl. 22:56:00 EET Dr.-Ing. Christoph Cullmann w=
rote:
> Hi,
>=20
> cool ;=3D)
>=20
> > Hello everyone
> >=20
> > KDE Binary Factory is generating stable Kate builds for =
quite a while
> > now and I think it would be a good idea to use
> > them as the official Kate installer for Windows.
> >=20
> > The release process would be as follows:
> >=20
> > Download the builds build from
> >=20
> > https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/kate-stable-win64/
> >=20
> > https://binary-factory.kde.org/job/kate-stable-win32/
> >=20
> > Do some testing and then upload it to
> > https:=
//download.kde.org/stable/kate/ .
> >=20
> > Kevin wrote some nice blog posts about Binary Factory http://kfunk.org/ .

I just tested the newest installer :)

I think it is super to be able to just copy an automatically built instal=
ler!=20

There are a couple of issues with this installer tho that could be improv=
ed:

1) The installer did not detect the already installed version and even le=
ts=20
you install itself multiple times...
That's not 100% true, it just doesn't recognize your old installer which used a different registry key.
So once updated it automatically uninstalls previous installs on update.

2) The installer size is just ~6MB bigger than the current installer, but=
 the=20
installed size has jumped from 160MB to over 400MB. There are a lot of=20
unneeded files installed like share/common-lisp :) but that is also just =
a=20
mater of fine-tuning the installer.
Sure the installer size could be reduced by a bit.

Noting tho that 150MB of the new installer is dictionaries that the old=20
installer downloaded on demand. I do think that that extra 150MB might be=
=20
worth it as we then do not need to have special dictionary downloads in t=
he=20
installer and Internet connection during install.
The old installer downloaded a handful of languages while the new provides all dictionaries from libreoffice.
Installer size is important for people in areas with a bad internet connectivity, installed size isn't that important nowadays.

I know tho that it is not so easy to remove installed files, because it m=
ight=20
not always be so easy to know what feature you might break as the applica=
tion=20
does start, but some feature might be broken and you do not know which on=
e...

If we would _add_ diff and kompare to the installation we probably would =
get=20
the file modification dialog to work, which it does not at the moment (al=
so the=20
current/old installer lacks these)... There is a lot of small things that=
=20
could be done :)

>=20
> As I am not the Windows guy here, perhaps K=C3=A5re wants to =
give his input,
> if he is ok with it, we should link that stuff on the website=
, too.
>=20
> Thanks for all the works besides!
>=20
> (both to Hannah + Kevin)

Yeah, thanks for doing the automated installer build!

Greetings,
  K=C3=A5re


>=20
> Greetings
> Christoph
>=20
> > Cheers,
> >=20
> > Hannah

Cheers,

Hannah
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