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Subject: Re: Non-free file in pate js_utils plugin
From: J._Pablo_Martín_Cobos <goinnn () gmail ! com>
Date: 2013-12-04 14:00:13
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2013/12/4 T.C. Hollingsworth <tchollingsworth@gmail.com>
> On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:28 AM, J. Pablo Mart=EDn Cobos <goinnn@gmail.com=
>
> wrote:
> > We could add a message: "If you install pyjslint this will download an
> non
> > free software". This is a solution, this is not a great solution but I
> think
> > that this is the best.
>
> It should just display the license and only proceed if the user agrees
> to the additional use restriction. "Nonfree" isn't very descriptive.
>
> But to be honest, the magic downloading thing pyjslint does really
> does nothing to help. It's just as non-free in distro's eyes as it
> would be if jslint were included.
>
> It might as well just include it and clearly list the license in the
> documentation and PyPi metadata, so it can easily be shipped in the
> nonfree section of various distros that would accept it. This also
> saves time for people who `pip install` it and makes it so it actually
> works if you grab the tarball from pypi and try to install it offline.
>
> That magic downloading trick is only really necessary for fully
> proprietary programs that do not permit redistribution. For instance,
> Debian's flash package does this only because it's prohibited for
> anyone but Adobe to ship the .so files, so it is forced to download
> and extract them from the official tarball shipped by Adobe.
>
> > Do you think about it?
> >
> > And please, try to be polite, "pyjslint basically lies about its
> license",
> > this was very offensive for my workmate. I do not want to discuss more,
> > please read your emails before sending.
>
> Yeah, it's pretty obvious what pyjslint does. It's not really
> helpful, but certainly not lying. :-)
>
I only complained about the ways.
If this is incompatible with the free software and the KDE repositoy, we
will have to remove it.
Thanks you very much for the clarification,
Best regards,
--
Pablo Mart=EDn
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<div dir="ltr">2013/12/4 T.C. Hollingsworth <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:tchollingsworth@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">tchollingsworth@gmail.com</a>></span><br><div \
class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
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<div class="im">On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 5:28 AM, J. Pablo Martín Cobos <<a \
href="mailto:goinnn@gmail.com">goinnn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > We could add \
a message: "If you install pyjslint this will download an non<br> > free \
software". This is a solution, this is not a great solution but I think<br> > \
that this is the best.<br> <br>
</div>It should just display the license and only proceed if the user agrees<br>
to the additional use restriction. "Nonfree" isn't very \
descriptive.<br> <br>
But to be honest, the magic downloading thing pyjslint does really<br>
does nothing to help. It's just as non-free in distro's eyes as it<br>
would be if jslint were included.<br>
<br>
It might as well just include it and clearly list the license in the<br>
documentation and PyPi metadata, so it can easily be shipped in the<br>
nonfree section of various distros that would accept it. This also<br>
saves time for people who `pip install` it and makes it so it actually<br>
works if you grab the tarball from pypi and try to install it offline.<br>
<br>
That magic downloading trick is only really necessary for fully<br>
proprietary programs that do not permit redistribution. For instance,<br>
Debian's flash package does this only because it's prohibited for<br>
anyone but Adobe to ship the .so files, so it is forced to download<br>
and extract them from the official tarball shipped by Adobe.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> Do you think about it?<br>
><br>
> And please, try to be polite, "pyjslint basically lies about its \
license",<br> > this was very offensive for my workmate. I do not want to \
discuss more,<br> > please read your emails before sending.<br>
<br>
</div>Yeah, it's pretty obvious what pyjslint does. It's not really<br>
helpful, but certainly not lying. :-)<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I only \
complained about the ways. </div><div><br></div><div>If this is incompatible with the \
free software and the KDE repositoy, we will have to remove it.</div> \
<div><br></div><div>Thanks you very much for the \
clarification,</div><div><br></div><div>Best \
regards,</div><div><br></div><div>--</div><div><br></div><div>Pablo \
Martín</div></div></div></div>
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