'Re: Vi Mode Bar => Status-Bar'

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List:       kwrite-devel
Subject:    Re: Vi Mode Bar => Status-Bar
From:       Sven Brauch <svenbrauch () googlemail ! com>
Date:       2013-04-02 21:00:14
Message-ID: CAE_ay6meUqVdy4=9Zi4FCLmKtgRLjt-_8SW5B0c3VJcB6Ghb0Q () mail ! gmail ! com
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But where? An extra bar for just the view mode is kind of wasteful.
And even *more* stuff in the tab bar is really not what kdevelop
needs...
Isn't the mode sort of obvious from the cursor shape anyways? I cannot
remember ever having a problem with not knowing what mode I'm in.

Cheers,
Sven

2013/4/2 Christoph Cullmann <cullmann@absint.com>:
> Hi,
> 
> IMHO that is kind of un-clever, as all applications I know of, like our ones \
> (Kate/KWrite) and Kile that use KatePart show a status bar with at least line/col \
> and the viewMode string, to allow users to see if INS/OVR/RO/...
> 
> I can revert the commits that remove the KateViModeBar, but on the other side, for \
> all applications with a statusbar, the vi mode bar is just a waste of one screen \
> line and duplicated code... 
> Couldn't KDevelop at least show the viewMode (and update on viewModeChanged)?
> 
> Greetings
> Christoph
> 
> ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> > No, kdevelop doesn't show those status bits. We moved the line/column
> > number to the top right, and the rest of the bar was rationalized
> > away.
> > 
> > 2013/4/2 Christoph Cullmann <cullmann@absint.com>:
> > > Actually, the container applications should show that in the
> > > viewMode.
> > > Like KWrite and Kate do.
> > > 
> > > Seems to work fine here, for the message/error I now use the
> > > passive notifications.
> > > Somehow KDevelop is missing any serious status bar, is that an
> > > accident of my side or does it really not show any of the normal
> > > status bits?
> > > 
> > > Greetings
> > > Christoph
> > > 
> > > ----- Ursprüngliche Mail -----
> > > > Hi Christoph,
> > > > 
> > > > On Tuesday 02 Apr 2013 12:54:54 you wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > the status bar in normal kate containers should contain the
> > > > > viewMode()
> > > > > string (like it does in Kate and KWrite). Would you mind if I
> > > > > change the vi
> > > > > mode to use that string to indicate the current mode instead of
> > > > > the
> > > > > optional extra bar? Would save screen estate and still the
> > > > > current
> > > > > mode
> > > > > would be very visible.
> > > > 
> > > > Would this mean removing the bar completely? It's also used to
> > > > show
> > > > transient
> > > > Vim messages, plus the current command being executed, etc, plus I
> > > > was going
> > > > to add a "macro recording" status label to it, too.  Where would
> > > > the
> > > > current
> > > > mode string appear in, say, KDevelop?
> > > > 
> > > > Erlend is probably the best person to ask about this, really -
> > > > he's
> > > > the Vim
> > > > mode maintainer, whereas I'm just doing a few odds and ends before
> > > > moving on
> > > > > )
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Simon
> > > > 
> > > > > Greetings
> > > > > Christoph
> > > > 
> > > 
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