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Subject:    Re: Review Request 127153: restrict cross-vd activation to in-client distribution
From:       Thomas_Lübking <thomas.luebking () gmail ! com>
Date:       2016-02-27 10:35:34
Message-ID: 20160227103534.22286.30217 () mimi ! kde ! org
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> On Feb. 23, 2016, 7:51 a.m., Martin Gräßlin wrote:
> > Sounds reasonable, demanding attention is the better thing in such cases.
> > 
> > We might need the same for activities?

https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318153

Instinctively, I'd say a window on another activitiy must *never* implicitly (ie. \
other than by user call) gain the focus (altering the activity!), but that depends on \
a global interpretation of activities reg. windows (this implies closign them, we \
have this ugly behavior for undecorated windows - notably relevant with CSD?! - and \
of course focus distribution and the default activity list (all/current))

Ie. are they self-contained subsessions or not ;-)


- Thomas


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On Feb. 27, 2016, 10:28 a.m., Thomas Lübking wrote:
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> (Updated Feb. 27, 2016, 10:28 a.m.)
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> Review request for kwin and Martin Gräßlin.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 359683
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359683
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> Repository: kwin
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> Description
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> 
> QDialog or at least QMessageBox does this and I doubt Lubos' idea was to
> "allow focus stealing if the client nags enough" - switching the VD is a
> major interrupt and prevented when a new window shows up.
> It should not be possible to stomp on ground and then receive
> focus - notably not on the other desktop.
> 
> I assume the original idea was to let clients distribute focus *inside*
> across virtual desktops, maybe also permit when no client was active,
> but hardly otherwise.
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> activation.cpp d6fbc5c 
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> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127153/diff/
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> Testing
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> yupp
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> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Thomas Lübking
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On February 23rd, 2016, 7:51 a.m. UTC, <b>Martin \
Gräßlin</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Sounds reasonable, demanding attention is the better \
thing in such cases.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">We might need the same for \
activities?</p></pre>  </blockquote>







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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=318153</p> <p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">Instinctively, I'd say a window on another activitiy must <em \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
normal;">never</em> implicitly (ie. other than by user call) gain the focus (altering \
the activity!), but that depends on a global interpretation of activities reg. \
windows (this implies closign them, we have this ugly behavior for undecorated \
windows - notably relevant with CSD?! - and of course focus distribution and the \
default activity list (all/current))</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Ie. are they \
self-contained subsessions or not ;-)</p></pre> <br />










<p>- Thomas</p>


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<p>On February 27th, 2016, 10:28 a.m. UTC, Thomas Lübking wrote:</p>








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<div>Review request for kwin and Martin Gräßlin.</div>
<div>By Thomas Lübking.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Feb. 27, 2016, 10:28 a.m.</i></p>







<div style="margin-top: 1.5em;">
 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Bugs: </b>


 <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=359683">359683</a>


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<div style="margin-top: 1.5em;">
 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
kwin
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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style="border: 1px solid #b8b5a0">  <tr>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">QDialog or at least QMessageBox does this and I doubt Lubos&#39; idea \
was to &quot;allow focus stealing if the client nags enough&quot; - switching the VD \
is a major interrupt and prevented when a new window shows up.
It should not be possible to stomp on ground and then receive
focus - notably not on the other desktop.
    
I assume the original idea was to let clients distribute focus *inside*
across virtual desktops, maybe also permit when no client was active,
but hardly otherwise.</pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>activation.cpp <span style="color: grey">(d6fbc5c)</span></li>

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<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127153/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>






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